Frozen Fury 2013, NY/CT Epic Fall Water War

[steelboot..]

Haha if only, if only...

[scottthewaterwarrior]

I did it again! I finally got back to updating my LEGO site and chatting with the people there. I just can't seem to keep up with waterwar.net and MOCpages at the same time! Anyway, that is why I haven't been around.

I would probably be up for an 8 our round so long as we had enough people. If it is going to be less then 4v4, I just don't think it would be much fun. (as a matter fact, I kind of feel that we should just reschedule wars that will have less then 8 people, 3v3 just isn't worth driving 5+ hours for). If we could get 10-12 people I think an all day round would be really epic. Although measures would have to be made so that we wouldn't spend hours just looking for each other. Setting boundaries would be a good start, maybe tying yellow ribbon around trees every 100ft or so, but I can also see other things going wrong as well. If one team gets an early lead, what is to keep them from just camping the island again? It is an 8 hour round, so it would be very boring to do that, but some will do anything to win (not that those people are in our group, but even so). I also think it would be good to have an out of bounds area (like the cars), just in case someone needs to take a break. Those are my ideas, sorry if they are a little jumbled but there was a lot to comment on.

I am a bit out of shape, but most of that just effects how long I can run without stopping, not how many times I can do it. Adrenaline can really work wonders too (Tiger < CPS 2000). I do hope to get in better shape before the war, which should be much easier now that it isn't really hot out. I also hope to do a few preventive repairs on guns before I go (pump/trigger reinforcement). On the slim chance that any of my friends come, I doubt they will be in shape. I can probably get a workout routine going for me, but there is no way I could get my friends to do it.

[DX]

If you come, we'd already be starting with 7 people on hardcore day (9 people on nephew day), with lots of people who haven't replied yet or are still unsure of their schedule.

The Paine Island is actually not that overpowered. You just need to know how to besiege it properly. We can also have a "hunting" rule, where teams must actively seek each other out regardless of score. It more or less worked at Waterbridge.

[scottthewaterwarrior]

I am going to come, to be honest I would make the trip just to hang out with everyone, but it wouldn't be worth it just for the war if we had only 6 people. I really hope we can get more people though. I always dream of having wars with 10v10, but 4v4 is where it really gets fun. You just can't do much other then OHK/OHS with less then 8 people. While splitting into two groups isn't a good idea in 4v4, if you have less then 4 on a team you aren't really splitting into groups now are you. (1 person is not a group!)
I think this time if less experienced players come we should try and par up. I know I might try and bring some friends, so I think it might be good to try and stick with the less experienced people. At Soakemore, often the new people ended up being by themselves (the team would split in two, the elite players attacking one front and the less experienced player attacking the other). At least for the first few battles, the new recruits (Ben's Nephews, my friend(s) ), should par up with an experienced member. We have so much experience, that most new members fall behind in battle. I think we should try and make an effort to teach these people how to fight better (preferably not by the nozzle end of a blaster).

If anyone in the Maryland area needs a ride, I should have plenty of room. Even if a friend or two come (highly unlikely) my Minivan can seat 7 and with the rooftop carrier I'd probably still have room for stuff!

[the oncoming storm]

soaking God DX would count as a unit on my watch

[scottthewaterwarrior]

soaking God DX would count as a unit on my watch

That is kind of the point, the way we have been doing it is that when we split up, the less good people are often put together while one or two veterans head off in a different direction. The noobs then get slaughtered as they have no one to tell them what they are doing wrong. I say that we try and teach the new people, not for the whole war, but for the first few rounds.

[marauder]

I am going to come, to be honest I would make the trip just to hang out with everyone, but it wouldn't be worth it just for the war if we had only 6 people. I really hope we can get more people though. I always dream of having wars with 10v10, but 4v4 is where it really gets fun. You just can't do much other then OHK/OHS with less then 8 people.

Well, I'd say there's a 90% chance I'm coming and if I'm coming I'm bringing 2 with me, so it really looks like the minimum is going to be 7 one day and 9 another. I'm also inviting 2 of my friends from NYC, not sure if they'll come, but it's a possibility. 3 v 4 is a lot more fun when you're running around than when you're trading shots in a small area, so I'd like to focus on that. I completely agree with you on pairing up. I think Rob had some ideas on what he wanted to do with that.

[HBWW]

Scott, at Soakemore, all your friends wanted to be on the same team lol. Anyways, agreed on the team pairing; will keep things interesting that way too as well as potentially improve teamplaying skills for some of us.

6 people is way more than I get at local wars, so it's always worth it for me. It'd be nice not having to pay hundreds of bucks in gas/airfare sometime though, lol. I need to join one of those club things and save up some miles. Airfare looks reasonable right now, but we'd better pick a date soon especially if it's during the holidays, or the fares will spike.

[DX]

The date that ended up working for the most people was Dec 18-21st. Arrival on the 18th, fighting on the 19th-20th, departure on the 21st. This will 90% likely be the final date. The core of it is not on a weekend like usual, but it's also the week before Christmas, so that should help with getting off work.

[marauder]

It's a very high possibility that I won't be able to make that date. Airfare prices jump about $100 or more from the beginning of the month to that point and I'm buying 2 tickets.

[DX]

Ulgh. Brandon, when are your final exams?

[SEAL]

Don't know yet. Probably as early as the 12th or 13th, and the 18th at the very latest. Last semester I think my last exam was on the 2nd day of finals, but I have no idea what things will be like this time.

[DX]

They don't give you a syllabus for each class? We (me, Ben, Sam, Brandon) need to have a Skype or AIM convo ASAP to get this sorted out. Now is the time to buy tickets because the prices will only go up, so we need to agree on the date ASAP.

[SEAL]

They do, but the final exam dates are all marked "TBD". Dates are decided much later, usually a couple weeks before finals. Don't ask me why they do this, but they do. But anyway, I can discuss it with you tomorrow.

[scottthewaterwarrior]

I will be busy all day tomorrow. But my schedule is very flexible so what ever you guys come up with should be fine for me. I have no idea about my friends, but who knows if their parents will even let them come. I know at least Bela's parents worry a lot, so it will take some convincing to let him come to a water war in December even if it is like 70 degrees. My last exam is at the end of November, Bela and Sam go to the same collage as me so they should be off around the same time.

[HBWW]

Like DX said, they don't have to know it's a water war. Is Bela into Nerf at all? =p

Anyway, I second this online meeting. Scott, it's still worth trying to find some time this weekend to chat w/ us so that we still have your input on games, etc.

Plus, I won't be bringing a WBL this time, so Sam won't be bugging me to use it - err, I mean, I won't have to worry about finding a slave to load/pressurize the WBL!

(Ok, fine, that was a little mean lol.)

[marauder]

I'm a bit surprised that people's parents are still telling where and what they can and can't do once they are in college. Anyway...

I will probably be able to get online tonight to discuss this, but I am working the football game vs LSU at 530 EST. I probably only have to do set up and first quarter so I may be able to get off around 7 EST. Rob, text me and let me know what time y'all are looking at. I don't know if anyone else has my new number, but PM me and I can give it to you or I'll give it to you in the chat tonight.

My final exams are before Thanksgiving. It's really crazy, but I love it. I have 1, maybe 2 classes after Thanksgiving and they may be skippable.

[HBWW]

DX, are you attending any Nerf wars within a few days of Frozen Fury? I could get a bit more out of my plane ticket by joining one with you.

@marauder: See, the problem is that you don't really have any true independence until you have a career-related job, otherwise many are still dependent on parents, especially in college when you can't afford tuition by working at McDonald's. I don't mean to speak for everyone though, but that seems to generally be the case. However, there are often ways around it, although that's also dependent on money and how much you bug your parents. I can't say I had it that well, but now with a career job and my own money, I can pay for these things and not worry.

[marauder]

True, I didn't think that a lot of people's parents pay for their school. I am paying my own way, so I guess my parents were kinda like whatever he's on his own. And I have to echo what you said about paying for school at McDonalds. It's unreal how expensive college is these days vs what you make minimum wage or just above minimum wage. I'm so glad I've got scholarships, but it's still difficult. Avoid as much student debt as you can kids! There's nothing wrong with taking off a year and working if you have to.

[HBWW]

Since DX hasn't posted them here yet, I think I'll take the liberty of doing so.

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