CPS 2000 Mk1 vs CPS 2000 Mk2 Comparison

[ZOCCOZ]

I don't see how you interpred from my quote that I confuse them. If anything, it suports your reply. Stream speed is the projectile speed when the stream leaves the nozzle. I think of it as FPS/Feet Per Second(from my airsoft days). Me mentioning the low shot time is to prove my point that its FPS will make up for its shot time. I know they are not the same( again in airsoft the spring pistol shot time itself is a very tiny millisecond while the projectile speed is 240 FPS), but one strength of the CPS2000 will make it up for the other short coming.

But again, a stream can have fast speed and tons of shot time! Low shot time has nothing to do with the speed. What I'm really getting at is the 2000 doesa NOT have such a fast stream. Faster than most other stock guns, yes, but slower than anything better than a stock gun.

I am aware they are not connected.(I assumed me mentioning the airsoft example would clarify that since not every pistol has the same FPS but basicaly same shot time). The point was, that the short CPS2000 shot time can be forgiven, it having more FPS. Again, they are not connected, but one makes up for the other.The MXL afterall has a short shot time and slow stream.

While my 21k has a faster stream than the CPS2000, it costed me about $40 in resorces(soaker, glue, baloons...). The time spend for modding could have been used for better things aswell to me. Still somewhat worth for the power feeling, but not enough for the 1hk game style itself I have to say. I would like to see someone making a buisness of custom soakers(Modded and APH), but that might still be awhile till that happens.



Edited By ZOCCOZ on 1138598451

[DX]

I am aware they are not connected.(I assumed me mentioning the airsoft example would clarify that since not every pistol has the same FPS but basicaly same shot time). The point was, that the short CPS2000 shot time can be forgiven, it having more FPS. Again, they are not connected, but one makes up for the other.The MXL afterall has a short shot time and slow stream.

While my 21k has a faster stream than the CPS2000, it costed me about $40 in resorces(soaker, glue, baloons...). The time spend for modding could have been used for better things aswell to me. Still somewhat worth for the power feeling, but not enough for the 1hk game style itself I have to say. I would like to see someone making a buisness of custom soakers(Modded and APH), but that might still be awhile till that happens.

Oh, I see what you're saying. Argument = over.

$40 isn't that bad for a modded gun. My style homemades are $20-45, while Doom's will put you well above $60, 70 depending on the type. Then again, compared to stock soakers with similar preformance, spending $40 to buy and mod a gun is a bargain.

[Hannibal]

Duxburian, it looks like you're comparing the CPS 2000 to one of your modded/homemade guns. I don't think anyone is going to argue that a 21k can beat a 2000. But I don't think that was what the argument was about.

I just used my CPS 2000 in a water fight yesterday, and it definitely has faster stream speed. I had a soakfest versus my brothers, and the only other gun that stood out was my 1700, which had slightly faster speed than the other guns, including my MXL, my brother's 3200 and pirahna, and my other brother's monster (which, by the way, is a pretty good gun, I don't think monsters are THAT bad).

Modded guns can probably beat the 2000, but the 2000 beats almost EVERY other STOCK gun, assuming all users are of equal skill.

[LIGHT ANNIHILATOR]

^ Water wars in January! ???

[Hannibal]

^ Water wars in January! ???

Yup, it was below 65 degrees, probably 60. I didn't mind it though. It was the first time I had had time to test my 1700 and 2000 in actual combat, both faring pretty well. I have yet to decide which I like better.

I have not totally given up on my MXL now, having the view that while slow and hard to pump, it isn't TOO hard to pump, and can be useful. I tried this tactic with much success: fill the MXL up at the QFD, unoad a 23x shot, and repeat. If you get a bit wet while you get in close, it doesn't matter, because you totally drench the other person.

My 2000 totally outranges my siblings' guns, but they are pretty good dodgers, so I sometimes get in close to unload. Boy, that gun is the most intimidating gun I have to them.

My 1700 is a basic soaker, but still very effective. I use 5x for normal use, and 10x when I just want to unload. The 10x still goes for 3 seconds!

Whoops, I got a bit off topic there, but I was discussing my CPS 2000 some!

[DX]

Don't get me wrong, I love the 2000. But, it is far from invincible.

If you read older topics, you'll get the impression that I tend to slam guns like the MXL. Not for the weight or bulkiness as much as the uselessness of the QFD in our local wars. Simply, we don't fight in areas that have water other than in streams and ponds. I see all guns dependent on hoses as nearly, if not totally, worthless like the Splashzooka for example. Just an opinion based on wars.

And a water war in January shouldn't be a surprise if the temperature is above average. I don't see why people stick to the soaking season as religiously as they do. It was over 60 today, and if someone were willing I would certainly have fought them. 40 degrees is my cut-off temperature for water wars. Then again, I live for cold weather, having not worn a coat in over a year and a half. :p

[soakerman]

And a water war in January shouldn't be a surprise if the temperature is above average. I don't see why people stick to the soaking season as religiously as they do. It was over 60 today, and if someone were willing I would certainly have fought them. 40 degrees is my cut-off temperature for water wars. Then again, I live for cold weather, having not worn a coat in over a year and a half. :p

I was thinking the same thing! I usually have water wars early on in the year when the temperatures in January are in the 70's :laugh:

[Hannibal]

Hey, Dux, I thought the same thing, that MXL's are only good with the QFD. Then I tried pumping and filling, rather than just QFD'ing. It worked pretty well. I guess I haven't given up on using it far from a QFD. I think it would be perfectly fine out in the middle of nowhere with no QFD at all. And my range is pretty good, at least for a MXL. I get like 40 feet on it.

[LIGHT ANNIHILATOR]

my range is pretty good, at least for a MXL. I get like 40 feet on it.

Really, well great then. MXL's usually only get 30-35ft, so one that shoots 40 is a rare find.

[Hannibal]

And a water war in January shouldn't be a surprise if the temperature is above average. I don't see why people stick to the soaking season as religiously as they do. It was over 60 today, and if someone were willing I would certainly have fought them. 40 degrees is my cut-off temperature for water wars. Then again, I live for cold weather, having not worn a coat in over a year and a half. :p

I was thinking the same thing! I usually have water wars early on in the year when the temperatures in January are in the 70's :laugh:

Where do you live? It's hardly ever in the 70's in January, even here. That aside, wouldn't mind having a few fights in Febuary. (BTW iSoaker, could we have one that says "Soak on!" with a CPS cannon?)

EDIT: I live for cold weather too. I wear shorts year-round, wearing pants only when my parents force me to. But I wear coats once in a while. I am a very skinny person, so I don't have much body fat to keep me warm. That is part of the reason I can never last in a pool or lake long before I have to get out due to extreme shivering.

And dux, what stock soaker do you like better than the 2000? Just curious.



Edited By Hannibal on 1138739859

[DX]

I live for cold weather too. I wear shorts year-round, wearing pants only when my parents force me to. But I wear coats once in a while. I am a very skinny person, so I don't have much body fat to keep me warm. That is part of the reason I can never last in a pool or lake long before I have to get out due to extreme shivering.

And dux, what stock soaker do you like better than the 2000? Just curious.

While I love cold weather, I couldn't possibly do shorts all year round. I mean it can dip below 0 here in a bad winter. I'm skinnier probably, with a calculated 2% body fat composition. I burn calories just by sitting there doing nothing...

I like the 2500 over the 2000. I can last over an hour with no need to refill with a 2500, can't say the same for the 2000. The 2500 yields so many tap shots that I can just keep on going and fighting. I like having the 5x and 10x shots. I rarely ever use 20x, never in wars, because it goes nowhere [well 30ft to me is nowhere] and wastes a ton of water.

[LIGHT ANNIHILATOR]

I also like 2500's because not only do they last longer than the 2000, but they also are the better general purpose weapon, good for almost every job on the battlefield.

[Hannibal]

Yeah, I can see what you guys mean. My 1700 is better than the 2500, though, so I have the 1700 when I fell like using the 1700, and the 2000 when I feel like using the 2000.

[DX]

I also like 2500's because not only do they last longer than the 2000, but they also are the better general purpose weapon, good for almost every job on the battlefield.

Every job on the battlefield. I don't mind scouting with that gun, or skirmishing with it, and feel more daring when commanding with it.



Edited By Duxburian on 1138748841

[Hannibal]

I also like 2500's because not only do they last longer than the 2000, but they also are the better general purpose weapon, good for almost every job on the battlefield.

Every job on the battlefield. I don't mind scouting with that gun, or skirmishing with it, and feel more daring when commanding with it.

Yeah, the 2500 is definitely a very cool gun. It is effective and reasonably powerful, light and the changable nozzles are a plus. I'd still prefer a 1700, but the 2500 looks a lot cooler.

[XP20Warrior]

I could have had a water war yesterday and tested out my Stinger and Yellow Jacket, but I had to work.