cps 2500 or cps 3200 - which one ?

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cps 2500 or cps 3200 - witch one ?

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Post by DX » Fri Aug 26, 2005 6:38 pm

As a general rule, CPS 2100 shoots 35 feet, CPS 1500, CPS 1000, CPS 1200 and CPS 2500 shoot 40 feet.


Ranges vary. Nibordude has a 2100 that shoots 5 ft. less than all his others. My 2500 gets 50ft. on 5 and 10x, but only 25-30 on 20x. Nibor's 1500 matches my 2500 in range, so both are above average. My 3200 gets about 40-43, 45 on a lucky shot.

I've also heard that someone modded a 2100 and got only 48ft. out of it. They followed the exact same procedure I did, but mine came up with 60.8ft, and most other peoples' fell in the middle, between 50 and 55ft. When my 2100s were stock, I don't think they shot more than 30ft, the range was bad for a 2100.

Although I am shocked that most CPS 2500s only shoot 40ft. Every 2500 I've ever seen has at least reached 45, most have reached the upper 40s.
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Post by isoaker » Fri Aug 26, 2005 8:02 pm

When you guys do your range measuring, how do you actually determine distances? Do you measure from standing point to last drop, nozzle-point to majority-splash or something else?

Differences in measuring practices may also account for the discrepancies between different people's observations. I go for measuring from nozzle (not foot position) at ~1m height to approximate majority soak area (not farthest drop) and round to the nearest foot. I also set up a bunch of markers along the firing path at even intervals (usually every 10') and approximate my measurements have an error level of +/- 2 feet. I ensure soakers are maximally pumped, minimal (preferably none) wind, and measure ranges 3 to 5 times, then average the recorded values, converting and rounding to the nearest half-meter (yeah, I change units). Thankfully, iSoaker.com's review page coding actually converts the values I enter in the database into both meters and feet so I don't need to type in values for both units. :goofy:

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Post by DX » Fri Aug 26, 2005 9:27 pm

I measure from nozzle-point of the gun to last drop. Flower pots at the patio mark the 50ft. mark, and I usually get something to mark intervals of 10ft or 20ft. The gun is fully pumped, shot when the wind is calm, at a 45 degree angle, and re-shot at least 3 times, sometimes more if necessary. I also do a "shoot-back", or mirror shot back to where the nozzle was from wherever the longest range was. The starting mark is the edge of my porch, always the same, so the "shoot-back" shot should just hit the edge of the porch. If the shot falls short [or long], the range results are scrapped and redone.

My margin of error is probably anywhere from +/- 1ft to +/- 3 or 4ft. My margin of error has a margin of error. :laugh: There's a tree in the middle of my yard that has branches which can interfere with a 45 degree shot. I prefer to test in the fall and winter, when the leaves are gone and the interference is gone. :laugh:
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Post by LIGHT ANNIHILATOR » Sat Aug 27, 2005 9:42 am

Well when i range test my 2100 i could get one of 2 different outputs a 8x steam that goes 35ft for 3 seconds or a 5x stream that goes 40ft for 5 seconds (i did not measure to the last drop)
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Post by isoaker » Sat Aug 27, 2005 11:58 am

@ LIGHT ANNIHILATOR : How are you ending up with two outputs from a single-nozzle-soaker? Are you pulling the trigger differing amounts or are you talking about two different CPS2100s you have?

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Post by LIGHT ANNIHILATOR » Sat Aug 27, 2005 1:14 pm

It's the same gun and i pull the trigger all the way back it's kind annoying because i can end up with 2 different ranges when i shoot.
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Post by emperor_james » Sat Aug 27, 2005 3:08 pm

So, how do you get the different ranges? What you are saying doesn't make a lot of sense.
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Post by LIGHT ANNIHILATOR » Sat Aug 27, 2005 6:42 pm

What i mean is when i pull the trigger i have a 50/50 chance of getting a large stream or small stream and each stream has a different range it's hard to explain. I believe this only happens on my 2100.
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Post by Wild Boys » Sun Aug 28, 2005 5:38 am

I had that when I had my 2100. Sometimes the beam is bigger and less coherant when you pull the trigger with less range. It happens on a lot of guns. My CPS 3200's 20x nozzle get that sometimes, a bigger beam that doesn't shoot as far as it normally would. The list goes on. But I don't have a 50/50 chance, on mine soakers it doesn't do it much.



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Post by HBWW » Fri Dec 01, 2006 3:02 pm

2500: You can make a backpack for it, and it's generally more powerful, able to function on it's own without a backpack.

3200: Has a larger PC, and if you want the mobility, simply fill the backpack with less water, though it's probably still better to have that water in a reservoir. The 3200 has QFD support.

To make up for power differences, you can, as mentioned, do a colossus, but there's no easy solution for expanding the PC. Without a backpack mod, a 2500 is more practical for 1HK, though if you're skilled enough, you can still do reasonably well in a soakfest, provided there's adequete access to refilling. However, the QFD support as well as a backpack mod being unecessary still make the 3200 a better choice.

Try to get both, they are both very nice guns. If it costs too much to get both, you might as well create a CPH.




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Post by SilentGuy » Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:24 pm

C-A_99: Note the dates on all these posts. Yours was December 1, 2006, but the one before that was August 28, 2005. That's a full 15 months or so. Even if you're information was spot on, it's likely that this problem has been resolved long ago and/or the poster(s) are inactive, which is the case. Nice post though.

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Post by isoaker » Sat Dec 02, 2006 4:17 pm

This thread seemed to have been bumped by a vote or two before C-A_99 posted. C-A_99 probably just saw the bumped thread and forgot to check the dates on the other posts. I've now disabled the poll-vote-bumping option.

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Post by SilentGuy » Sat Dec 02, 2006 5:17 pm

Hmm, I suspected that. I remember the same things used to be enabled at SSCentral, which probably isn't a good idea because people are even worse with opinion polls than they are with opinion threads. Whatever, the problem shouldn't come up anymore.



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Post by HBWW » Sat Dec 02, 2006 8:32 pm

Oops, I should've watched the post dates anyway, my bad.



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Post by SilentGuy » Sat Dec 02, 2006 10:26 pm

No problem, hope I didn't come down too harsh on you...at least these threads won't be bumped anymore by people who dug through and vote on old polls. Plus they can do so all they want now.

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