Fortifications

General questions and discussions on water warfare regarding tactics and strategies.
User avatar
Field Marshal Yang
Posts: 376
Joined: Sun Jul 04, 2004 9:45 pm
Location: Setauket, NY
Contact:

Post by Field Marshal Yang » Sun Jul 11, 2004 6:24 pm

We had a thread about fortifications oN WWN back in the winter and there were many suggestions about how to construct the most effective and easy to build fortifications. Now I'd like to bring back those suggestions the new members a chance to post their ideas.

The Premise: Unlike in real warfare, large permanent fortifications aren't built in water warfare. Much of the cover used in water wars are pre-existing structures and natural obstructions. However, bases often need protection from an assault with fortifications that can easily be built and taken down before and after a water war. They should also be easy to put back together or repair in the heat of a battle. Many of these fortifications can be incorporated into existing structures or the geogrpahy of the area. Static defense, such as water balloons as mines are also used as fortifications. How would you construct fortifications for your base?
Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fate of Human Societies, by Jared Diamond

User avatar
13579
Posts: 9
Joined: Wed Jul 07, 2004 2:41 pm
Location: on the U.S.S. starship voyager
Contact:

Post by 13579 » Sun Jul 11, 2004 9:08 pm

Hmmm, I was thinking something like a plastic tub filled with 2x4's {pointed at one end}, some rope, and one or two hammers, you drive the pointy part of the 2x4's into the ground with the hammer, then tie rope aroune it, maby. It would time to put up, but its moble.
:wacko: :cps3000:
:bringiton:
:cps1500::wb2:


:cps2000::cps2500:



:soakon:

Veteran
Posts: 569
Joined: Sun Jul 04, 2004 4:08 pm
Location: Redmond, WA

Post by Veteran » Sun Jul 11, 2004 9:30 pm

So your saying a MOBILE plastic bathtub? Don't know if they make them.

User avatar
cooldood31
Posts: 232
Joined: Mon Jul 05, 2004 9:02 am
Contact:

Post by cooldood31 » Sun Jul 11, 2004 9:36 pm

I use beach umbrellas, cardboard boxes covered in garbage bags, tarps (sometimes tied to trees as a roof or 'tent', and large sheets of wood. It would also be great to have some motion sensing sprinklers as an automated defense system, but I'm not about to buy any. Stream machines, supercharging guns, and any guns with a fanblast are great weapons for base defence. Try to build your base on an elevated area.

Veteran
Posts: 569
Joined: Sun Jul 04, 2004 4:08 pm
Location: Redmond, WA

Post by Veteran » Sun Jul 11, 2004 9:38 pm

I use my fully-equipped two story waterproof fortress. I'm not kidding.



Edited By Veteran on 1089599950

User avatar
13579
Posts: 9
Joined: Wed Jul 07, 2004 2:41 pm
Location: on the U.S.S. starship voyager
Contact:

Post by 13579 » Sun Jul 11, 2004 9:40 pm

Veteran wrote:So your saying a MOBILE plastic bathtub? Don't know if they make them.
i dident mean a bathtub, just a large, plastic tub.
:wacko: :cps3000:
:bringiton:
:cps1500::wb2:


:cps2000::cps2500:



:soakon:

User avatar
cooldood31
Posts: 232
Joined: Mon Jul 05, 2004 9:02 am
Contact:

Post by cooldood31 » Sun Jul 11, 2004 9:43 pm

"I use my fully-equipped two story waterproof fortress."


No doubt equiped with phasers, deflector shields and a whole array of photon torpedoes.




Edited By cooldood31 on 1089600239

Space_Cowboy
Posts: 314
Joined: Sun Jul 04, 2004 10:52 pm
Location: Under There...
Contact:

Post by Space_Cowboy » Sun Jul 11, 2004 10:03 pm

Veteran wrote:I use my fully-equipped two story waterproof fortress. I'm not kidding.

Ok...

...I'm equiped with an observation tower. It makes a great fortification, as well as a communication HQ. I'll get some pictures of it soon.




Edited By Space_Cowboy on 1089601435
Image
With a name like Manhole Mayhem, it has to be good...

Veteran
Posts: 569
Joined: Sun Jul 04, 2004 4:08 pm
Location: Redmond, WA

Post by Veteran » Sun Jul 11, 2004 11:24 pm

cooldood31 wrote:"I use my fully-equipped two story waterproof fortress."


No doubt equiped with phasers, deflector shields and a whole array of photon torpedoes.
Want me to post pics?

User avatar
13579
Posts: 9
Joined: Wed Jul 07, 2004 2:41 pm
Location: on the U.S.S. starship voyager
Contact:

Post by 13579 » Sun Jul 11, 2004 11:29 pm

cooldood31 wrote:"I use my fully-equipped two story waterproof fortress."


No doubt equiped with phasers, deflector shields and a whole array of photon torpedoes.
lol, seems that startrek isn't dead :laugh:



and could you post pics?
this ''fully-equipped two story waterproof fortress'' sounds cool
:wacko: :cps3000:
:bringiton:
:cps1500::wb2:


:cps2000::cps2500:



:soakon:

User avatar
Iceman
Posts: 263
Joined: Sun Jul 04, 2004 3:00 pm
Location: Pennsylvania, USA

Post by Iceman » Sun Jul 11, 2004 11:44 pm

I have 2 ways of fortification. My basement acts as our main Headquarters. Inside you will find:

- Complete Workshop full of Basic Tools to do repairs on soakers
- A Bathroom with plumbing and sink
- A Big Screen TV
- DVD Player
- Playstation 2
- Full Gym Area
- Pool Table
- Air Hockey
- Fridge
- 3 telephones (dad going through mid-life crisis, lol)

And I’m not lying. Will post pics if requested. Base can be securely locked and dead-bolted with 2 keys, complete with a motion sensor alarm system.

As for a more mobile base, a tent packed in our Team Kit with essentials for on the go. Since the windows do not have zippers, we must install the rainfly. Tripwires for alarms are good to, and we could set up cardboard as extra fortification. Setup takes about 5-10 minutes, and tent will hold 4 soldiers + soakers and storage.
:cool:
_

User avatar
Falcon
Posts: 148
Joined: Wed Jul 07, 2004 2:40 am
Location: Sydney, Australia

Post by Falcon » Sun Jul 11, 2004 11:47 pm

Uh.....Veteran, you wouldn't happen to be talking about your house,would you? :goofy: Otherwise, a two story fortification sounds very effective, provided that it's completely sealed so no water can get in.

User avatar
Field Marshal Yang
Posts: 376
Joined: Sun Jul 04, 2004 9:45 pm
Location: Setauket, NY
Contact:

Post by Field Marshal Yang » Mon Jul 12, 2004 2:55 pm

In almost all of my battles, the only fortifications have been preexisting objects. For example, I have a fence my deck which basically makes it a fortress with small holes to fire out of. At Commander Roo's house, there is a long line of hedges at the top of a hill in his front yard (really big), which works just as well. The one time I tried to setup my own fortifications was with poster boards and that didn't go so well.
Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fate of Human Societies, by Jared Diamond

Veteran
Posts: 569
Joined: Sun Jul 04, 2004 4:08 pm
Location: Redmond, WA

Post by Veteran » Mon Jul 12, 2004 2:58 pm

Falcon wrote:Uh.....Veteran, you wouldn't happen to be talking about your house,would you? :goofy: Otherwise, a two story fortification sounds very effective, provided that it's completely sealed so no water can get in.
No, its nore like a modified clubhouse, but its bigger and has two stories. I used plastic cardboard to seal the widows and doors when they shut.

User avatar
Field Marshal Yang
Posts: 376
Joined: Sun Jul 04, 2004 9:45 pm
Location: Setauket, NY
Contact:

Post by Field Marshal Yang » Mon Jul 12, 2004 3:07 pm

Veteran wrote:
Falcon wrote:Uh.....Veteran, you wouldn't happen to be talking about your house,would you? :goofy: Otherwise, a two story fortification sounds very effective, provided that it's completely sealed so no water can get in.

No, its nore like a modified clubhouse, but its bigger and has two stories. I used plastic cardboard to seal the widows and doors when they shut.
Is it in the back of your yard or somewhere else? Also, what are the dimensions of the fortress? I wonder if a large shed from Home Depot could be a fortress...
Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fate of Human Societies, by Jared Diamond

User avatar
cooldood31
Posts: 232
Joined: Mon Jul 05, 2004 9:02 am
Contact:

Post by cooldood31 » Mon Jul 12, 2004 5:09 pm

A shed might work, but most don't have opening windows so to be able to shoot out you would have to half barricade the door, or make a wall going around the shed as perimeter defence



Edited By cooldood31 on 1089670197

Veteran
Posts: 569
Joined: Sun Jul 04, 2004 4:08 pm
Location: Redmond, WA

Post by Veteran » Mon Jul 12, 2004 5:17 pm

I think both floors are 2.5meters x 2.5meters x 2meters. (each floor not together) The total size would be 5m x 5m x 4m



Edited By Veteran on 1089677732

User avatar
Field Marshal Yang
Posts: 376
Joined: Sun Jul 04, 2004 9:45 pm
Location: Setauket, NY
Contact:

Post by Field Marshal Yang » Mon Jul 12, 2004 7:03 pm

Veteran wrote:I think both floors are 2.5meters x 2.5meters x 2meters.
That seems to be around the size of the shed in my yard. However, my shed is permanent and isn't exactly a good design for a water war. The only window is on the door and even when it's open, it has bad lighting and is filled with tools and supplies. Is that fortress mobile or permanent?
Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fate of Human Societies, by Jared Diamond

User avatar
13579
Posts: 9
Joined: Wed Jul 07, 2004 2:41 pm
Location: on the U.S.S. starship voyager
Contact:

Post by 13579 » Mon Jul 12, 2004 7:13 pm

cooldood31 wrote:Stream machines, supercharging guns, and any guns with a fanblast are great weapons for base defence. Try to build your base on an elevated area.
if you can take it off to re-fill, stream macheans to me = bace turret, same with superchargeing guns.
:wacko: :cps3000:
:bringiton:
:cps1500::wb2:


:cps2000::cps2500:



:soakon:

Veteran
Posts: 569
Joined: Sun Jul 04, 2004 4:08 pm
Location: Redmond, WA

Post by Veteran » Mon Jul 12, 2004 7:18 pm

Sniper, you could simply have the resevoir attached via hose to the stream machine.

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 30 guests