First '07 soaker sighting

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Post by ZOCCOZ » Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:28 pm

I think I said it once before at a different thread, but how dare Super Soakers pulls Transformers into the dirt with them. Absolutly shameless. :soaked: :cps2500:

Right now Super Soaker guns are arriving at my local Zellers. Only the Secret Strike and the recolour vaporizer at the moment.

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Post by Rook » Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:06 pm

Well, I am interested. It seems to be everything that the Shieldblaster line hoped to accomplish, except a little more functional.

From what I can tell, the shield actually flips out. It looks like an elaborate fan design, but I can't be certain.
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Post by Evangel » Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:15 am

Went to Meijer and they had the Secret Strike, Arctic Blast, and Hydro Blitz! I bought the Arctic Blast and Hydro Blitz right on the spot. :cool:

Hydro Blitz is HUGE, definitely the biggest Max Infusion gun so far by almost twice the length of the others. Arctic Blast is actually a fusion of both the Arctic Shock and the Flash Flood! That is definitely something I'm actually kinda hesitant to go up against.

EDIT: Tested the Hydro Blitz and I gotta say this has got to be the WEIRDEST gun I've ever used. It's like an oversized pulse cannon, you pump up the pressure with the big handle, and fire with the trigger. There's a switch that toggles between the normal stream and the big pulse nozzle. Now this is what's interesting: when you hold the trigger, the pulse cannon fires quick bursts in intervals, and actually WILL NOT fire unless there's enough pressure for at least one burst. Even if you hold down the trigger and just crank that handle as fast as you can, it will ONLY fire when it senses enough pressure for at least one pulse. And from what I can tell, pulses can't be cancelled by releasing the trigger.

Here's my evaluation:

Pros - 1.) Automatically firing fixed amounts of water at a time makes it easier to determine how much ammo you have left. 2.) Massive water capacity at +100oz according to the box. 3.) Comes with a strap. 4.) Looks are VERY intimidating! :bringit:

Cons - 1.) Very oddly shaped, thus difficult to aim. 2.) Strap is virtually required, as it is insanely hard to pump without the strap proping it up. 3.) Rapid-pump attacks may be difficult. 4.) Pretty expensive.




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Post by mr. dude » Fri Mar 16, 2007 12:16 pm

What kind of output would you estimate it gets?

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Post by Evangel » Fri Mar 16, 2007 12:20 pm

Hard to say really, all I've really done is shoot it into my bathtub. I'd say maybe one pulse equals maybe half a riot blast from a Flash Flood. Oh, but that addresses another con: it takes a LOT of pumps to get this thing fully charged, in fact I don't think I've even GOTTEN a full charge yet.

The main nozzle is pretty standard size, and the pulse nozzle is about half the diameter of a flood nozzle.

Adding more info, the trigger is angled, so it seems like this thing was meant to be held like a mini-gun rather than like a rifle, as in you hold it at waist-level. But to help with that, the trigger is huge, roomy enough for three fingers, maybe four.

EDIT: Thought of another pro: being able to switch between nozzles prior to firing makes it harder for the opponent to anticipate what you're going to do.




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Post by SilentGuy » Fri Mar 16, 2007 4:09 pm

Wow, nice! About time somebody got a HydroBlitz too! Thanks!

What's the approximate range, as far as you can tell? And how frequent are the pulses? Thanks. :cool:

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Post by ZOCCOZ » Fri Mar 16, 2007 5:33 pm

Rook wrote:Well, I am interested. It seems to be everything that the Shieldblaster line hoped to accomplish, except a little more functional.

From what I can tell, the shield actually flips out. It looks like an elaborate fan design, but I can't be certain.
Perhaps that is the new Shieldblaster design, and Hasbro just hopped onto the shield-bandwagon when they needed something for their TF soaker version. Then again at this point its just speculation.

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Post by HBWW » Fri Mar 16, 2007 5:49 pm

Hmm, perhaps a mod can be done to remove the pulse feature (which right now sounds like a gimmick) and allow for normal large nozzle firing?

Nice info update, thanks.
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Post by mr. dude » Fri Mar 16, 2007 6:31 pm

Hey Evangel, now we can both brag about being the first to own a certain soaker! Me with the Scorpion, and you with the Hydroblitz!
Anyway, it doesn't sound so interesting now. And you described a 5x-ish stream, which isn't the best.

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Post by isoaker » Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:19 pm

Add one more shade of green to my soaker-owning enzy! :goofy: Then again, it's not too often I manage to stumble across stock soakers earlier than many others.

@Evangel: the Hydro Blitz sounds interesting, but perhaps a little unwieldy due to its size and shape. I still definitely want to test it out. Can you take and share some pics of your new soakers?

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Post by DX » Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:56 pm

How do you think the HydroBlitz would fare against the WW Orca? They seem to be natural rivals.
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Post by HBWW » Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:05 pm

The Orca definately sounds much better so far, and costs half of the HB.

Wish those lame stores around my area would get something more than the small and/or crappy soakers.




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Post by SilentGuy » Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:15 pm

Duxburian wrote:How do you think the HydroBlitz would fare against the WW Orca? They seem to be natural rivals.
Rivals in that the Orca is far better. Much lighter, a center of gravity near the user's center of gravity, good pump action, perhaps up to 50% more range...

That said, I've seen neither.

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Post by DX » Fri Mar 16, 2007 11:04 pm

I need to be able to come to an educated conclusion on this so that my new members buy the best guns for our style, hence my unusual interest in the forbidden realm of stock soakers.. Since I don't plan on buying a HydroBlitz, I'll have to compare it without actually having shot one. Also, I'd be interested to see what kind of mods can be done, though I doubt there's much worth doing. Without the whale sound, I'd be very content to stick with the Orca based on reviews/stats so far. Was I one of/the first to get an Orca? That would be highly ironic given my buying history. :goofy:
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Post by Evangel » Sat Mar 17, 2007 1:05 am

So far, the pulse firing does seem like kind of a gimmick, but I guess it can have its uses. The pulses are maybe about half a second apart, but that's just my mental estimate, I'll have to time it with a stopwatch or something.

You pretty much DO hold it entirely like a minigun, with your rear arm on the trigger and the forward arm on the handle to prop it up and aim it.

As for range, box says about 35ft.

Overall though, I'd say it's one of those guns whose bark is worse than its bite. A little underpowered for a weapon of its size. But I suppose it gets points for being Max-Infusion capable.

Anyway, I wish I could share some pics, but I don't own a digital camera of any kind, not even a webcam.




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Post by WaterWolf » Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:56 am

DETAIL! We crave stats!
How much range (Approximately) do the different nozzles get? How much shot-time does it have? Do the burst shots spread out like the Flash-Flood or stay together like a regular beam?
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Post by Evangel » Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:26 am

Well unfortunately, I don't have the equipment necessary, nor do I really know iSoaker.com's standard testing procedures, to give exact stats. You guys seem to do a much better job of high-precision testing. If I knew what the iSoaker.com standards and procedures were for testing, then maybe I could do something, but either way it's too cold to do this outside right now (there was a blizzard also). But as I said, box says 35ft. range which is about the average for Max Infusion guns, and the pulse shots do spread out like Flash Flood. Best I can do is maybe get a shot-time with my cell phone's stopwatch function.

Don't worry though, if they had them at my Meijer, then they should be starting to come out at other stores too.




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Post by isoaker » Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:29 am

Evangel wrote:Well unfortunately, I don't have the equipment necessary, nor do I really know iSoaker.com's standard testing procedures, to give exact stats. You guys seem to do a much better job of high-precision testing. If I knew what the iSoaker.com standards and procedures were for testing, then maybe I could do something, but either way it's too cold to do this outside right now (there was a blizzard also). But as I said, box says 35ft. range which is about the average for Max Infusion guns, and the pulse shots do spread out like Flash Flood. Best I can do is maybe get a shot-time with my cell phone's stopwatch function.

Don't worry though, if they had them at my Meijer, then they should be starting to come out at other stores too.

iSoaker.com Testing Procedures can be found here. For stats conversion info, see the Conversions page.

I would hardly call any of the stats on iSoaker.com "high precision". :goofy: Most of the measurements have a +/- of 5-10% depending on what is being measured.

At any rate, any stats you feel you can measure decently would be appreciated. No worries if you need some time and warmer weather to take stats; we who have yet to try the various new soakers are just impatient and want as much info as possible NOW! :goofy:

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Post by SilentGuy » Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:41 am

Actually, the general idea is good enough for me. In a war, and if you're just having fun, another cubic centimeter of volume doesn't make much of a difference. :B

Nice information though!

SSC has an incredibly old article on taking stats, if you're interested. But nobody's pushing you to take the stats, it just has some neat tricks to know.

Thanks!

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Post by XP20Warrior » Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:38 pm

Found a bunch of SS SplashFires & an XP-70 in Family Dollar today. Found some WW guns at K-Mart that are on clearance, and suspect that they will not be selling as a main line gun anymore. Check my thread in mySoaker.
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