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Nozzles: Active versus permutations

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 9:17 pm
by isoaker
Ok, not sure how many have thought much about this, but there is an inherent flaw about how iSoaker.com currently lists blaster nozzles. There is a listing of nozzles and sometimes combination nozzle stats, but no actual mention of how many nozzles are actually active on a particular model (e.g. the Monster XL has 2 active nozzles, but a total of 36 potential nozzle settings since each active nozzle has 6 settings; the Vanquisher has 1 active nozzle and three nozzle settings whereas the Flash Flood has two active nozzles).

Anyone else think this type of information should be added to the database?

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Re: Nozzles: Active versus permutations

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:26 pm
by SEAL
Yeah, you probably should. I'm not sure how useful it would be to people, but I suppose it would just be good general info.

So I think you should list it something like this:

For a blaster with only one nozzle like the XP 70:

No. of Active Nozzles: 1
No. of Nozzle Settings: 1 or N/A.
No. of Total Nozzle Combinations: 1 or N/A

For a blaster like the Vanquisher:

No. of Active Nozzles: 1
No. of Nozzle Settings: 3
No. of Total Nozzle Combinations: 3 or N/A

Blasters like the Monster XL:

No. of Active Nozzles: 2
No. of Nozzle Settings: 11
No. of Total Nozzle Combinations: 36

And for blasters like the Flash Flood or AB:

No. of Active Nozzles: 2
No. of Nozzle Settings: 2
No. of Total Nozzle Combinations: 2 or N/A

Nozzle Combinations could be merged with No. of Nozzle Settings, since most blasters don't have 2 active nozzles and nozzle selectors on each one.

Re: Nozzles: Active versus permutations

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:18 pm
by isoaker
That's more-or-less the idea, though not sure about the wording of the terminology, yet. I'm also considering simply noting that a nozzle has a nozzle selector as opposed to calculating combinations/permutations since that can lead to some confusion and possible arguments (e.g. technically, one can shoot both the stream nozzle and 'flood' nozzle on a Flash Flood, though by engaging the 'flood' nozzle, the stream nozzle will basically lose power almost immediately).

Of course, now that I'm thinking about this more, to do this well requires a little more work than I initially considered. Not sure whether it is or isn't worth the effort.

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Re: Nozzles: Active versus permutations

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 12:02 am
by martianshark
I don't think it matters that much, but if you don't have anything else to do, it might be a good idea.

Re: Nozzles: Active versus permutations

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:08 am
by ncog
It would be a valid addition but I don't think it's necessary...I've never thought about it as I've always just looked at pictures or checked the review for nozzle information, where it's covered well.

I'd say that most people would be the same as me, so if it's a lot of work then probably not worth it....Good idea all the same!

Re: Nozzles: Active versus permutations

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:12 am
by SEAL
It doesn't really matter that much, but like I said, it's good general info.

You can pretty much forget about listing Total Nozzle Combinations. Just list the number of nozzle selections. Unless you want to add it just on blasters like the MXL and XXP 275.

Re: Nozzles: Active versus permutations

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:26 pm
by isoaker
I think I have a simple solution: I'll note in the reviews how many active nozzles there are and, for particular nozzles measured, I'll state which active nozzle it is attached/related to. I'll need to do some tests to see whether it will work the way I believe it should, but I'd still like to add in the info if it doesn't break the existing setup. :goofy:

BTW, thanks for the feedback and thoughts above.

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Re: Nozzles: Active versus permutations

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 5:49 pm
by isoaker
Ok, new field added and am debating on how much detail to add in. Though at present it states number of nozzles or whether there's a nozzle selector and how many settings it has, for blasters with a nozzle selector, I'll likely end up putting in the actual settings as a list. Will take a little while to go through all the blasters, but it should add to the value of the info in these stats.

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