Artic Shock-Flash Flood

[Mike 15]

Make a super soaker, a artic shock and a flash flood put togther, I would call that gun the Odyessy, it could hold 50 ounces of water,


Others are a Monster XL and a CPS 3000 put togther, would called the CPS 3500, the Power Pak X is a Power Pak but has a 20x nozzle, and Promethesus, a P-90 type of gun that has a 10x nozzle.


And of course the insane Enterprise that would make the Monster XL look tiny and could support a 120x nozzle on it.
micah,

[m15399]

Are you telling us to do that? Or do you think it would just be cool?

Odyessy... for one thing, I assume you meant odyssey. That's a rather strange name for an integration. Usually it's a combination of the names, such as Arctic Flood. And what's the point? You could just do a reservoir expansion and put ice cubes in the reservoir. You wouldn't have to waste another soaker.

[Mike 15]

Are you telling us to do that? Or do you think it would just be cool?

Odyessy... for one thing, I assume you meant odyssey. That's a rather strange name for an integration. Usually it's a combination of the names, such as Arctic Flood. And what's the point? You could just do a reservoir expansion and put ice cubes in the reservoir. You wouldn't have to waste another soaker.

It would be cooler to make, you could make that buy puting ice cubes in the FF.

[Mike 15]

the Enterprise would be the type of soaker that would actucally 'drown' people, it would a huge sheild blaster and a CPS 2000 put togther.

[DX]

I don't think any integration could support a 120x nozzle. That is in homemade territory and still quite a stretch, double the 60x of my first homemade. 120 is possible actually, but you'd need insanely big pressure chambers.

There's no point to the Artic Shock ice cubes in the first place. If you want colder water, use colder water to begin with.

Very few non PC-Swapping Integrations have been successful. I remember the CPS 2250 [CPS 2000 and 2500] and the CPS 2000x [CPS 2000 and I think Monster X]. Feel free to carry out the other ideas, however, it would be interesting to see the results.

[Mike 15]

I don't think any integration could support a 120x nozzle. That is in homemade territory and still quite a stretch, double the 60x of my first homemade. 120 is possible actually, but you'd need insanely big pressure chambers.

There's no point to the Artic Shock ice cubes in the first place. If you want colder water, use colder water to begin with.

Very few non PC-Swapping Integrations have been successful. I remember the CPS 2250 [CPS 2000 and 2500] and the CPS 2000x [CPS 2000 and I think Monster X]. Feel free to carry out the other ideas, however, it would be interesting to see the results.

the pressure chamber on the Enterprise is huge, the gun itself is darn right huge, it would dwalf the Monster XL at over four feet long, and 18 inches wide, it could hold 450 ounces of H20, it would be like the 6 barrel gating gun the Vulcan.

[Mike 15]

Of course you would probably kill someone if you got them with a 120X + nozzle. it would knock them down.

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[DX]

Keep in mind that size of the gun has nothing to do with performance. Only the size of the pressure chamber, inner diameter of the pump, nozzle setup, etc. affect performance-related stats.

And might I add that in order to have 120x, you would need 3600 mL pc that can be dumped in only 1 second. Not to mention one heck of a nozzle diameter in order to handle such a huge load. ???

[isoaker]

A 120x nozzle capable of firing at a decent range would probably knock the user off of their feet. Methinks such a soaker design is now falling into the realm of pure fantasy.

[DX]

You could physically do it, but the recoil will take you to the ground. I tested one of my Nerf homemades with a tank full of water and 70 PSI, and had it not been for the wall, I would have gone down backwards and the gun would have flown away. The output must have been over 60, 70x+, but I have to measure it before making any assumptions.

120 is crazy though. Just picture being hit with 3600mL in 1 second. Ouch.

[ZOCCOZ]

This thread confuses me. I thought it was intended as a fiction topic?

As for the Monster XL and CPS 3000 hybred, in the world of fiction soakers, there is the Super Soaker 3000 alternate or Super Soaker 4000.



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[m15399]

120x... I don't see why not. If you build an APH with huge PC's and 2" internal diameter... That would be scary. So why hasn't anyone built one??

[isoaker]

120x output with a decent range falls into the category of potentially physically damaging weapon. Forget eye damage; if you're hit in the head with ~3-4 kg of water, you'd be lucky to still be standing after. If it was a surprise attack, whiplash from the stream would be a serious issue.

These things can be built and may be good for some things, but not for use in typical recreational water warfare.

[SharpObjects]

*Ahem*

Fire hose anyone? I've always pondered at the output of those.

~SO



Edited By SharpObjects on 1144593532

[isoaker]

Fire hose testing

That one is pushing about 4L/sec free flow, but only about a 45x (~1.4L/sec) stream with a 5/16" nozzle. At a distance, the stream speed would be lower so that it's ok to be hit by the water, but closer to the nozzle is a very different story. Fire hoses are sometimes used for crowd control for good reason.

One more on fire hoses... 75' to 100' vertical shots on average.

See: http://www.slate.com/id/2110766/

[Dacca]

first of all dont double post, hit the edit button. secondly, since we have ventured into the realm of speculation i'll try to bring us back to reality by saying that anything over 60x is overkill. as cool as a 120x may sound in a waterfight, you probobly won't be able to controll the blaster at all, unless its some kind of mounted artillary (*cough*firetruck*cough*). even in a soakfest 60x is fine because your looking to soak the person, not injure them. also, retailers such as hasbro or buzzbee would never even consider producing any blaster like that in todays PC and safty minded world. also, in your original post you simply just told us about these blasters without any detail. if your going to do this, please please please do so reasearch into this and include more details whether it be pictures or anything.

[Mike 15]

the Enterprise would have a 2x nozzle, for conserving water, like you need to with a 450 ounce water supply, a 5x nozzle, a fan nozzle, like the CPS 3000, a 30x nozzle, and the dreaded 120x massacre nozzle, you could also shot 2 30x blasts, one in the front and one in the back, part of the gun would come around to your back and act as a sheild and also a second 30x nozzle, like the XP Backfire,







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[m15399]

^I was kidding...

only about a 45x

You might be able to use something with high output as a WBL alternative. If you can get water to go 200 feet, you might as well put it to good use.

[Adrian]

First off, welcome to the boards. We hope you enjoy your stay.

This topic is bizarre. The first post starts out with rather commanding language, and the discussion of building guns 120x nozzles is just absurd. Also on the strange side of things is the description of these imaginary guns - the "Enterprise" is described in one post as already existing.

I'm too lazy right now to go down and check the muzzle of my 3200, but last time I looked, 20x was around 3/4 of an inch. Multiply that by 6... you get a 4.5 inch nozzle. I'm no math whiz, but to get any kind of decent range, you'd need some serious force and an equally serious amount of water. Why don't we keep things in the realm of the possible and non-damaging here?

I'm rather weirded out.

Adrian

[m15399]

The 60x riot blast of Doom's APH is 3/4", so it's not the nozzle size, it's the power behind it. 200x is completely possible, but not non-damaging.