2007 soakers revealed!

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Post by Rook » Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:07 pm

I'm guessing that it's not a Riot Blast trigger, but an all-purpose trigger. There does not seem to be a trigger on the grip. Though there is a slightly orange blob there, it seems to be the background.

I think the reveal will happen within a week or so. By last year's trend, I'm probably way off. :goofy: Keep your fingers crossed.




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Post by WaterWolf » Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:04 pm

The theory of the lever as the pump is what I thought of recently when the new pictures were released. I very seriously doubt that its battery operated, as the amazon page for it mentions nothing about battery requirements, which they always have done in the past if they were needed.

I also agree with you that it could be a new beginning or a crashing end for good Hasbro soakers.

I however remain optimistic, as last-years models were a step up from the previous year, and hopefully this gun will be another rung on the ladder to greatness.
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Post by isoaker » Sun Jan 07, 2007 9:29 am

Pre-Link:
AquaShock Arctic Blast

No sign of others yet...

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Post by Dr. D » Sun Jan 07, 2007 10:50 am

Is there perhaps any shance that hasbro hasn't finalized the exact design yet and is still arguing over battery vs pump? That would explain the lack of concrete information/a good picture.

Whoa, I just noticed something. If you take a close look at the picture rook posted, you'll notice a little black lever on top of the nozzle that looks incredibly similar to the silver riot blast trigger on the flash flood. Also, if you take a look at the early picture that Ultor_Solis posted, you'll see that the kid holding the gun doesn't have a hand anywhere near the bottom of the rifle, and instead has one hand where the bizzare handle is and one hand on the back grip (where the trigger is) In addition, the gigantic pump-handle-type-thing is positioned in the center of the gun, instead of the top half closest to the nozzle where a riot blast release would make the most sense. Could this mean the hasbro mught be working on a new unconventional pump design?
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Post by isoaker » Sun Jan 07, 2007 11:08 am

The black thing at the top of the soaker in rook's reposted pic is 99% likely just the strap lying atop the front of the soaker.

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Post by Rook » Sun Jan 07, 2007 12:37 pm

It really doesn't make sense for that lever to be a pump. It would cause the gun to shake too much, the gun would be forced upwards while pumping.

The release is getting closer... :oo:




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Post by HBWW » Sun Jan 07, 2007 1:01 pm

Like I mentioned in another thread, perhaps on another forum, having the lever as a pump would just be plain bizzare and unlikely, perhaps it's size is to make the trigger easier to use with less resistance. (more distance, less force) The 'gimmick' of the gun is supposed to be larger streams and a larger gun, so that removes any chance of it being battery powered, and the lack of advertising such comfirms this. Also, the small orange piece behind the lever appears to be the quick fill cap. What I really don't get is why the PC seems to be placed there if it's CPS, but if it's air pressure, they can put an intake tube in there and bring it up to the nozzle, which wouldn't affect linear flow as much.

Another possibility is that this is just more of a primitive and less complete model than the others, which may be why entertainment earth never got a picture of it. (yet we all saw a low res image of it on the secret strike's box) It would've only appeared in the sweepstakes just to give people an idea of what it looks like. Because of this, some things might not have been finalized yet.

Just a few thoughts.




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Post by SilentGuy » Sun Jan 07, 2007 2:48 pm

The tank near the back, below the grip, is definitely the reservoir. The orange cap in front of the grip is for filling, whether it's quick-fill or not is questionable. But if the gun has a reservoir, it might not need quick-fill to the reservoir.

The top handle is there for a purpose: the gun is heavy. As I've said, it's the soaker equivalent of the M134 Vulcan. The handle is not there for a pump, trigger, or whatever. Yes, the gun might be less than two feet long, but it's wide and tall. It definitely has enormous capacity.

I actually wouldn't be surprised if it was a quick-fill or battery-powered response to the Scorpion. Plus, that would justify the need for a handle like this if it had the weight of a battery and a ton of water.

I'm also certain that the trigger, or at least the main one, is somewhere near the main grip (in the back). Why would they put it anywhere else? Also, I highly doubt that they haven't finished designing it.




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Post by WaterWolf » Sun Jan 07, 2007 9:03 pm

I agree with SilentGuy that the gun is most definitely not still in the design phase.
As the company must begin production of the item long before it begins selling in stores.

The entire design could have been thought up years ago, like the Nerf Longshot rifle was.
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Post by Rook » Mon Jan 15, 2007 6:40 pm

I got some Peanut Butter Crunch today, and it had the special promotions panel showing the Hydroblitz. It seems that it has two nozzles, one above and one below, like the Flash Flood. If you look at iSoaker's outlined pic, it's the orange blob labeled "4".
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Post by Dr. D » Wed Jan 17, 2007 3:15 pm

Do you mind scanning the lable and posting it? I'm sure it'd be a help.
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Post by Rook » Wed Jan 17, 2007 4:25 pm

There's a much better pic that has been recently posted here.
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Post by ZOCCOZ » Thu Jan 18, 2007 2:57 pm

Haven't been here for awhile.

Anyways, the Arctic Blast most likely is another Flash Flood re-do. Like most here that $50 blaster is what intersts me(as usual thats the one with no pricture) . Which probably means that it will sell for $60-$90 CAN here(thats what the MX and MXL sold for.) With 40 feet it might be like the monsters. That is if its not a backpack with its "incredible"(sarcasm) 100 oz. So yeah, it can be either an acceptable gun, or an overpriced piece of crap matching those shitty names. :cps2500:

[edit]: Should have read the other pages after page 1 before posting.
O.k the Hydro Blitz is some sort of contemporary take of an CPS 1500 & XP250 hybred looking at the design and size. Well, that could be intersting. Certainly like the lever trigger since nothing will snap off out of no where even when handled with care.




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Post by scorpion » Thu Jan 18, 2007 4:22 pm

Did u look at the picture from amazon? it's much more clear than the one on that cerial site. the lever on top is the pump i believe.
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Post by dragonclass » Sun Jan 21, 2007 6:47 pm

And here's what that looks like:

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Post by WaterWolf » Sun Jan 21, 2007 7:47 pm

Hay, Dragonclass, its been a while since you've last posted here.
Its good to see you back. :cool:
Nice high-detail pic of the Hydro-Blitz.
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Post by ZOCCOZ » Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:12 pm

scorpion wrote:Did u look at the picture from amazon? it's much more clear than the one on that cerial site. the lever on top is the pump i believe.
Lever pump eh? Which means it still uses the post-2003 triggers that require some fixing after snap off. $50 US + additional costs of a new screw driver set. Then again, they might fixed that. I still have to wait about what the PC size and output is before making a purchase.

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Post by Crashdummy » Mon Jan 22, 2007 10:39 pm

ZOCCOZ pretty much hit the nail on the head. Unless I get one as a gift, I'm going to wait and hear about how good or bad the Hydroblitz is.

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Post by Dacca » Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:37 pm

in that pic, what im wondering is if thats a switch of sorts in the middle of the blaster right under the words between the 'h' and 'y'. and whats that orenge thing semi-hidden underneith the blaster?
more reliable then a max-D trigger

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Post by HBWW » Tue Jan 23, 2007 5:54 pm

^it looks like decoration, otherwise it might stand out more and would probably be a different color.
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