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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 12:48 pm
by Seal Frank
Yeah, Yang is right but also the traditional SS, when you have to pump it, and after you pump it like 7 times, it gets really hard to pump. The new SS, you can easily pump, say the monster rocket, its trigger is easy becuse it's a bicycle pump, so that way you don't to lift it and pump.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 12:53 pm
by Soakologist
Uhm... I couldn't quite follow your last post. Something about the trigger is the pump itself? Perhaps elucidation would make it easier to understand.
Would you care to elaborate?

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 1:01 pm
by Field Marshal Yang
What he's saying is that sicne the Monster Rocket's pumping mechanism is vertical, gravity does half the job for you, so it's a lot easier to acheive the necessary amount of pumps. I think that a heavy CPS soaker and the Monster Rocket take the same amount of effort to pump fully becaus eeven though it's easier to do one rocket pump, ther are a lot more rneeded.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 1:10 pm
by Soakologist
I think the box said that you need over 100 pumps to attain full power.
Has anyone else seen these things in stores?

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 1:20 pm
by Seal Frank
Well, that tops my post, 100 pumps that will surely give me a sore hand, also, I haven't seen it in stores.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 2:39 pm
by Veteran
It launches ONLY 100 feet, thats really short for model rockets. Thats a foot a pump, pretty lame.



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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 2:48 pm
by Soakologist
100 feet is awfully high, IMHO...

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 2:54 pm
by Iceman
Soakologist wrote:I think the box said that you need over 100 pumps to attain full power.
Has anyone else seen these things in stores?

Many in Wal-Mart, but not in TRU. Yang is right, gravity does half the work for you. My next door neighbor got the Monster Rocket, and he showed it to me. I thought it launched about 120 feet, but he pumped it about 60-70 times to get that height.

-Iceman

edit- Warning, the slightest wind will set it off course, this is a very light device. Launch in an open area to the point it will hit the ground if the wind catches it, had to pry it off my roof. :goofy:




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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 2:59 pm
by Soakologist
I've seen them in TRU, KB, Meijer, and Galyans.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 5:43 pm
by Field Marshal Yang
How well has the Monster Rocket been selling in retail stores? If it's selling well then we may well see a return of it and other water-powered rockets next year. If it's not selling well, then it will enetr the hall of the annual novelty, abeit more elaborate and expensive then most soaker novelties.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 6:25 pm
by Soakologist
It ranges from 35 at KB to 17 at Meijer. (US Dollars)

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 6:46 pm
by Excelite
Does anyone know how much they retail for in Canada? I've launched Estes rockets before, and I'll get one of these if they can be found for a reletively inexpensive price.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 6:48 pm
by Veteran
They went for $30 in my local Target "however they mark everything up so that doesn't prove much.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 6:55 pm
by wetmonkey442
I saw them at my local Wal Mart for 27 dollars. That seemed like a good price, and I probably woudl have bought it if I wasn't out of money at the time.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 7:09 pm
by Soakologist
Try another store. I think that Galyans had them for just twenty.

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:21 am
by Veteran
Just buy an air powered rocket. You never need to refill it and it goes higher.

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 1:45 am
by ChrisReid
Soakologist wrote:Hey Chris, how does it come down? It didn't go as high as I thought it might. How many times did you pump it up?

Wow, how high did you think it went? It goes up pretty #### high. http://www.wcnews.com/chrisreid/2004soaking10.jpg is about 60 pumps. About 130 pumps is where the pressure starts to get stiff. It easily tops 100 feet. The rocket is also more than 7 feet tall, so it's a lot more impressive than some of those little model rockets.

It has a balance on the nose, so once it's hit its peak, it sort of falls down slowly sideways, almost parachute style, so nothing gets damaged.




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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 6:38 am
by Field Marshal Yang
Now I wonder, is it possible to mod the nose of it so that you could have an actual parachute that opens up like on a real model rocket?

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 9:41 am
by wetmonkey442
Soakologist wrote:100 feet is awfully high, IMHO...
Not really. The most basic of model rockets can easily reach 1000 feet, and the highest model rockets can reach half a mile.
The rocket is also more than 7 feet tall, so it's a lot more impressive than some of those little model rockets.
IMO the size of the rocket does not matter. Sure, model rockets don't go nearly as high, but they can do so much more such as carry small cargo which can include small camera. They are also much more reliable, and structurally sound.

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 3:07 pm
by Seal Frank
Yep, model rockets can go really high, at a techonolgy club, it went really far that it landed on a building and we couldn't get it down. Man, the Other people in the club were real mad at me. :laugh:



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