2006 soakers

[Wild Boys]

I don't know why some people were building their hopes up about a CPS 2000 10 year Anniversary rerelease, since Hasbro from what they have shown this year and the past few years don't seem to care about people like us, we will probably get rereleases, but probably not very good ones, but I sincerely hope we do get a good one, although Hasbro may just do the same as the previous years and still re-issue the CPS 4100 again, the unreliable version. Even then they might even stop doing that.

What gets me though, although pretty far away, is that in 2008, it will be 20 years to that year that Super Soaker was first born and created if I remember right, so maybe something special will happen then. Time will tell.



Edited By Wild Boys on 1137166371

[marauder]

I'm sick of the pesimism here. You're already making judgements on the 2006 line based off of a blurry picture from the back of a box.
If you want to complain then please leave right now. When the 2002 line came out there was a great deal of pessimism, but now you all rant and rave about the holy CPS 2100.
If you want to talk about modding then maybe you all should be researching mods to fix this whole Max D epedimic. That's what I'm going to do if I get the time. I think the performance of the guns are fairly decent, and the external durability is incredible. Why don't you take all your energy and use it to fix the triggers/nozzle valves instead of complaining? If you want CPS you should be researching how to integrate homeade CPS firing chambers into new guns. Oh yeah, and speaking of CPS, the Flash Flood with its screen taken off shoots as far as my 1500s/1700s, and I've tested 7 of them... tying it for the 2nd furthest shooting watergun according to my records and testing. I think that's great. Hunter devised a way to fix the nozzle valve on the gun, and so now it works perfect. It's a great gun.
I know there will always be things that we all want that aren't on the current line up, but it's not like we have a whole line of backfires and XP 85s. Why don't you wait to actually test these things out first. You people make me sick.
I really like the idea of interchangable parts, if that's what they are talking about. I had come up with an idea for that myself. I'm going into hybernation until spring time. I need to focus on school and my band. This does not mean that I will not be working on Hydrowar though. Expect a big update when I come back. Including a new video from last year, and a bunch of other stuff. The winners of my contest (Anthony S. of Illinois, and Hunter) have been notified and their prizes have been sent out in the mail. I will post their (and others') submissions with the Spring update.
See you in April.




Edited By marauder_4 on 1137186063

[ZOCCOZ]

To each our own. Although if its talks like a duck, looks and quacks like a duck, its probbaly a duck. And with duck I mean "crap". Its not really fortune telling this time since 70% are recoloured versions on the box.

Personaly, the CPS2100 is not that great in my view and the Flashflood is to overated. The Large riot blast won't make up for a PC smaller than many novelty finger puppets. I would even say the Flashflood is a very bad blaster.

If you do a book report in school, do you edit and re-write parts you don't like in the book? No. Then why should I mod or fix a soaker that I don't intend to use? i just say whats wrong with it, and then I move on. Thats what criticism on the intellectual/conceptual basis is.
The nice thing about critical review are, you don't have to use or get upset about what you review or look at, unless you are psycologicaly attached to it or are despearate for a new good soaker. You just analyze the elements. Therfore, fixing the problem is not necesary since you don't have to care if its fixed.
The way I rate soakers is just the way I rate any merchandise, comparing it to a previous model. If it sucks, I won't hesitate to call companies on their bull. That is what a critic does. I don't see Ebert and Roeper re-writing and re-shooting someones movies because they don't like them. The object is being examined and compared to what was brought before(lets don't forget many of us have been around the SS300,CPS 96-2003 lines...) and if its rates badly, its proclaimed crap and everybody moves on. No modding or fixing required.



Edited By ZOCCOZ on 1137198724

[isoaker]

Before this digresses too far, I should remind all that this thread is for discussing the various 2006 soakers we find out about. At present, unless someone has actually tried one, one can speculate about performance, but shouldn't jump too fast before a soaker has actually been tested by a few. It is fair to comment on styling, colours, and apparent lack of new CPS-based soakers, but beyond that, not much else can be said truthfully without actually testing things.

I await and look forward to finding out more info on the newer models. If their performance ends up as anticipated, so be it. If many end up complaining about performances of problems from use, that's fine. I should point out that many in the community (myself included) originally overlooked the Buzz Bee Toy line since most of us thought the 'Water Warrior' line was just some cheap knock-off soaker, not knowing that the designers were actually many of those responsible for the original Super Soaker line. The WW Blazer may not hit as hard as the older CPS1000, but it does perform better than first impressions made many of us believe.

Let us not be overly prejudice. Opinions are natural, but I want to see some performance reviews before accepting or writing-off a new soaker.

[DX]

The old cliche "Actions speak louder than words" does have truth to it. There's a reason I never bothered with buying 2003, 2004, and 2005 soakers.

Going back to M4's comments on the Flash Flood, while it is a useful gun, it was terribly outgunned in our wars. The best example was a 5v4 where there were two decisive guns, a CPS 2100 and a CPS 2500. The Flash Floods barely held their own. By the late wars last season, I wasn't even concerned about enemies wielding those.

Newer guns tend to preform badly in these wars, because our old gun tech is superior, and even just the old guns in general. Now I complain a lot about stock preformance, and about companies, but I do offer plenty of alternatives and look for new options. Actually, I used to think most stock guns were bad until the recent lines, I've had to drop my standards to reflect the impact of the poor stats of the 2003-2005 guns.

Never a huge fan of companies or the ignoring of tech by the vast majority of the community, I feel that those whom make improvements have the right to complain. I can back up my higher than normal standards with a tour of the basement: the 50-60ft modded guns, the homemades, and the new ideas.

I've said it a million times before-the future is still in our hands, whether you choose to grasp it is your choice.

[Spinner]

Let us not be overly prejudice. Opinions are natural, but I want to see some performance reviews before accepting or writing-off a new soaker.

Despite not being over-enthralled with this year's line-up, I would agree with that statement, and ask people to hold out until testing can be done. Who knows...the casing might hide cleverly designed nozzles to increase ranges by 10 feet...okay, it's unlikely, but possible. Let's wait and see.

Having said that, if the "Infusion Overload" (or whatever it's called) is going to be £30 a throw in the UK, I might hold off on buying one.



Edited By Spinner on 1137238974

[wetmonkey442]

I'm sick of the pesimism here. You're already making judgements on the 2006 line based off of a blurry picture from the back of a box.
If you want to complain then please leave right now. When the 2002 line came out there was a great deal of pessimism, but now you all rant and rave about the holy CPS 2100.
If you want to talk about modding then maybe you all should be researching mods to fix this whole Max D epedimic. That's what I'm going to do if I get the time. I think the performance of the guns are fairly decent, and the external durability is incredible. Why don't you take all your energy and use it to fix the triggers/nozzle valves instead of complaining? If you want CPS you should be researching how to integrate homeade CPS firing chambers into new guns. Oh yeah, and speaking of CPS, the Flash Flood with its screen taken off shoots as far as my 1500s/1700s, and I've tested 7 of them... tying it for the 2nd furthest shooting watergun according to my records and testing. I think that's great. Hunter devised a way to fix the nozzle valve on the gun, and so now it works perfect. It's a great gun.
I know there will always be things that we all want that aren't on the current line up, but it's not like we have a whole line of backfires and XP 85s. Why don't you wait to actually test these things out first. You people make me sick.
I really like the idea of interchangable parts, if that's what they are talking about. I had come up with an idea for that myself. I'm going into hybernation until spring time. I need to focus on school and my band. This does not mean that I will not be working on Hydrowar though. Expect a big update when I come back. Including a new video from last year, and a bunch of other stuff. The winners of my contest (Anthony S. of Illinois, and Hunter) have been notified and their prizes have been sent out in the mail. I will post their (and others') submissions with the Spring update.
See you in April.

Amen.




As far as I'm concerned, these things are still (a bit) better than the E.E.S. line. The potential for modding is there. I think the Flash Flood, for one, has some serious potential. I'm going to stick to making WBLs. I might buy one of these new guns if I see it for cheap. My old 1500 can't (and won't) last much longer.


Soak On

[Wild Boys]

I'm sick of the pesimism here. You're already making judgements on the 2006 line based off of a blurry picture from the back of a box.
If you want to complain then please leave right now. When the 2002 line came out there was a great deal of pessimism, but now you all rant and rave about the holy CPS 2100.
If you want to talk about modding then maybe you all should be researching mods to fix this whole Max D epedimic. That's what I'm going to do if I get the time. I think the performance of the guns are fairly decent, and the external durability is incredible. Why don't you take all your energy and use it to fix the triggers/nozzle valves instead of complaining? If you want CPS you should be researching how to integrate homeade CPS firing chambers into new guns. Oh yeah, and speaking of CPS, the Flash Flood with its screen taken off shoots as far as my 1500s/1700s, and I've tested 7 of them... tying it for the 2nd furthest shooting watergun according to my records and testing. I think that's great. Hunter devised a way to fix the nozzle valve on the gun, and so now it works perfect. It's a great gun.
I know there will always be things that we all want that aren't on the current line up, but it's not like we have a whole line of backfires and XP 85s. Why don't you wait to actually test these things out first. You people make me sick.
I really like the idea of interchangable parts, if that's what they are talking about. I had come up with an idea for that myself. I'm going into hybernation until spring time. I need to focus on school and my band. This does not mean that I will not be working on Hydrowar though. Expect a big update when I come back. Including a new video from last year, and a bunch of other stuff. The winners of my contest (Anthony S. of Illinois, and Hunter) have been notified and their prizes have been sent out in the mail. I will post their (and others') submissions with the Spring update.
See you in April.

Why is it now that people flame just when somebody gives their opinion, I am not a big fan of the new Super Soakers, but other people may be, it doesn't mean to say that people who aren't keen by the looks of the 2006 line including me you can call pesimists. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but that doesn't mean to say that you can flame it.

Oh yeah, and I do want to research on making one of those CPS homemades that people do, but if the materials aren't in the UK, its pretty obvious I can't make one! Even a new member knows that!

After saying please leave right now, you've just settled it, I've had enough of people flaming me, and complaining when I'm just saying my opinion. A fair amount of people probably don't even respect me here, and probably want me to go anyway, you probably think I'm like people like Blaze, blueviper and all that lot, all the things (although not as much as others I give here), people just aren't bothered about. So theres no point of me being here.

I'm sure that now I have said this members like Ben will probably be pleased, to see that I'm not supposedly to members like him ruining the forums. So, you get your wish.

I used to respect people like m4, but now there is just no point, as they just seem to "rant and rave" about you, I have better things to do than see members complain about how much of an idiot I am.

Now, I bid you farewell, hope all your flaming and arguments over power stop one day and make you realise.

[Adrian]

Don't leave, Wild Boys, nobody thinks you're an irritation. Ben's just torqued off at everybody who's prejudging the new line, me included.

I'm with DA on this one. Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, has webbed feet like a duck, a bill like a duck, there's a particle of a chance it'll be a duck...

Adrian

[Dr. D]

I still think there's a legitamate chance that they'll re-release some older CPS's. Maybe not the 2000 but perhaps 1200, 2100, even 1500? When they re-realeased the 4100, XP 310 and Max-D 6000 in 2004-05 they didn't show up on the boxes of the Vaporizers, Liquidators, ect. It'd really be nice, since I'm pretty sure my Sport's Authority and Target have run out of their 2100 and 4100 stockpiles. Nearly all of the CPS's such as 2100's, 2700's and 4100s in our local league of sorts broke at the end of the season, so I'd really be reassured to see any kind of older CPS on the shelves.

Anyway, the main 2006 line does seem a bit disappointing. 2005 did seem like the hints of a turning point with the introduction of new CPS-utilizing guns. I'm not going to completely judge the new guns until they can be bought and tested. But still....

[isoaker]

@ Wild Boys: If you leave every forum you feel some members have flamed you on, you will find that you will never remain at any forum. In the end, that supposed 'flame', to me, looks more like an opinion and, in the case of M4's rant, was not aimed at anyone in particular. IMO, M4's use of 'you' was referring to 'anyone', not someone in particular.

At any rate, would I like to see more true CPS-class blasters return? OF COURSE!

However, I still prefer being objective and would like to test things out before passing final judgement. Others may not have the luxury and thus need to be choosier when based on looks alone. From my view, I still like to see how a particular model feels and performs in my hands.

In other thoughts, the availability of a stock interchangeable backpack could potentially allow for others here to adapt it onto their older, more prized soakers and/or homemades, increasing capacity without having to build a backpack tank of their own.

[ZOCCOZ]

In other thoughts, the availability of a stock interchangeable backpack could potentially allow for others here to adapt it onto their older, more prized soakers and/or homemades, increasing capacity without having to build a backpack tank of their own.

Wouldn't that interchangability be due to the cap typ of the 2006 models? At least thats what it looked like on the 2006 backpack pistol. It still remains to me seen, till the 2006 cap typ is examined, but the previous CPS caps where fairly different than soakers from 2004 on, where they not?

[wetmonkey442]

I'm sick of the pesimism here. You're already making judgements on the 2006 line based off of a blurry picture from the back of a box.
If you want to complain then please leave right now. When the 2002 line came out there was a great deal of pessimism, but now you all rant and rave about the holy CPS 2100.
If you want to talk about modding then maybe you all should be researching mods to fix this whole Max D epedimic. That's what I'm going to do if I get the time. I think the performance of the guns are fairly decent, and the external durability is incredible. Why don't you take all your energy and use it to fix the triggers/nozzle valves instead of complaining? If you want CPS you should be researching how to integrate homeade CPS firing chambers into new guns. Oh yeah, and speaking of CPS, the Flash Flood with its screen taken off shoots as far as my 1500s/1700s, and I've tested 7 of them... tying it for the 2nd furthest shooting watergun according to my records and testing. I think that's great. Hunter devised a way to fix the nozzle valve on the gun, and so now it works perfect. It's a great gun.
I know there will always be things that we all want that aren't on the current line up, but it's not like we have a whole line of backfires and XP 85s. Why don't you wait to actually test these things out first. You people make me sick.
I really like the idea of interchangable parts, if that's what they are talking about. I had come up with an idea for that myself. I'm going into hybernation until spring time. I need to focus on school and my band. This does not mean that I will not be working on Hydrowar though. Expect a big update when I come back. Including a new video from last year, and a bunch of other stuff. The winners of my contest (Anthony S. of Illinois, and Hunter) have been notified and their prizes have been sent out in the mail. I will post their (and others') submissions with the Spring update.
See you in April.

Why is it now that people flame just when somebody gives their opinion, I am not a big fan of the new Super Soakers, but other people may be, it doesn't mean to say that people who aren't keen by the looks of the 2006 line including me you can call pesimists. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but that doesn't mean to say that you can flame it.

Oh yeah, and I do want to research on making one of those CPS homemades that people do, but if the materials aren't in the UK, its pretty obvious I can't make one! Even a new member knows that!

After saying please leave right now, you've just settled it, I've had enough of people flaming me, and complaining when I'm just saying my opinion. A fair amount of people probably don't even respect me here, and probably want me to go anyway, you probably think I'm like people like Blaze, blueviper and all that lot, all the things (although not as much as others I give here), people just aren't bothered about. So theres no point of me being here.

I'm sure that now I have said this members like Ben will probably be pleased, to see that I'm not supposedly to members like him ruining the forums. So, you get your wish.

I used to respect people like m4, but now there is just no point, as they just seem to "rant and rave" about you, I have better things to do than see members complain about how much of an idiot I am.

Now, I bid you farewell, hope all your flaming and arguments over power stop one day and make you realise.

Oh god, now I remember why I haven't posted here in awhile.

Wildboys is just being moody. If he leaves, he leaves, but something tells me he won't. It's super soakers guys. Super Soakers! Toys! I think we all need to remember that it all boils down to having a good time.

[isoaker]

@Zoccoz: the cap probably wouldn't fit older models as well, but looking at how they did it, I figure those with a little creativity would be able to adapt it onto their fav' soaker. Adjusting an adapter cap would likely be simpler than attempting to build an entire backpack reservoir from scratch. I had not intended to imply that the new stock backpack would just fit any soaker without a need for adjustment.

[DX]

Actually, I think building a homemade backpack would be a whole lot easier. More costly yes, but much easier and with more options.

And I feel that it is just stupid to leave over an argument about stock soakers that haven't even been released yet! Amen to Wetmonkey's statement.

[marauder]

I came back so that wet monkey knows I was not adressing it to him particularly and I don not wish to see him leave. I don't think you're ruining the forum at all. I am merely exasperated at the jump towards negativity I've seen here, and the hatred for hasbro that I've seen off and on. I mean they are a toy company for crying out loud.

It's super soakers guys. Super Soakers! Toys! I think we all need to remember that it all boils down to having a good time.

@ Duxburian. I agree. I have made several homeade backpacks. I think I have instructions for making one for an SS 100, or any other classic gun, on Hydrowar. I think I should redo it with pictures. It is pretty easy. As for the usefulness... well it's just cool to do, I mean if you want a big gun, just use a 3200 or something.



Edited By marauder_4 on 1137360566

[LIGHT ANNIHILATOR]

Im back and i see lot's of good posts, actitvity must be on the rise.

The 3rd from the left seems to have a CPS chamber.

I really want to take a look at that one up close.

[ZOCCOZ]

The 3rd from the left seems to have a CPS chamber.

I really want to take a look at that one up close.

That was my theory before someone had a better picture and implys that its a Hydroblade without a blade. So looks that its just a red FlashFlood being the only CPS this year. (That is if they don't sell the CPS4100 again. They sure milked that model over the years. Not a very good choice to milk to.)

[Adrian]

From what I've heard, third from the left is either the 3A without 2 of the A's, or the "Oozenator," a name that is demeaning even by Super Soaker standards. Sounds like one of those old toys, looks like a person, it's really a syringe, you put silly putty in it and press the plunger - voila! hair on syringe person.

Adrian

[LIGHT ANNIHILATOR]

The one on the far right sort of looks like a green max-d 2000.


EDIT: Just realized something, don't know if you guys already knew this. You see the backpack on the "overload" that can connect to all the max infusion blasters. So you can connect that backpack to the 1st 4 blasters from the left, imagine giving a flash flood a 3L backpack.


Also if anyone is good at photo editing could you enhance that image and repost it so we can learn the names of the new soakers.





Edited By LIGHT ANNIHILATOR on 1137441998