Figures for creating an APH
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:49 am
Hello,
I am new to this forum. I recently digged out my old stock soakers from the attic and it made great fun.
To have even more fun I decided to build a soaker myself.
While there are a lot of guides and tutorials, I was not able to find any figures yet.
Please do not say "that depends on what you want to have". I want to have something that feels like my XP150 without its drawbacks.
It would be fine if it had a range similar or superior to my SS100. I do not want to have a specialist eg for sniping or flooding.
Size of PC and Pump
When you think about volumes, eg. the volume of the pressure chamber or the pump you need a hint from experienced people which proportion will work fine.
My old soakers are a SS100 and an XP150. They show both ends of what is possible.
Using the SS100 you have to pump like insane, because the pressure chamber has a volume of 400 ml, while the pump only has 20 ml (and the diameter is low). You never ever reach a point were pumping is not possible any more. The valve will have opened long before.
Pumping up the XP150 only needs you to pump a few times. But you soon reach a point, where you just cannot move the pump any more.
So what do you suggest?
My idea is a PC volume of about 300 to 500 ml, a pump pipe of either 16mm=>1/2" or 20 mm (outer) diameter, and with a lenght of maybe 15 cm.
Should I change some of these figures?
Size of the soaker
I tried to attach the water reservoir to the gun itself. But if you plan a reservoir of 1 liter, the gun will have a size of at least 35 x 35 cm (14").
Is it possible to handle soakers of that size? Or will you hate it?
I think I will use some standard PET water bottles on my back... should I?
Nozzle
What is a good size for the nozzle?
Max Pressure
What is the pressure I have to expect?
Most of my parts have a specification of 16 bar (230 psi). Some only reach 10 bar (145 psi).
A few that I could try to avoid reach "only" 5 bar (70 psi).
There are some transparent PVC pipes available that do not take much pressure. But it might look great.
So what pressure are we usually talking about, when pumping manually?
Construction
How much PVC glue will I need? Should I buy 125g or 480g?
Should I buy the "PVC cleaner" they offer?
Did anybody integrate a manometer in his soaker?
I am new to this forum. I recently digged out my old stock soakers from the attic and it made great fun.
To have even more fun I decided to build a soaker myself.
While there are a lot of guides and tutorials, I was not able to find any figures yet.
Please do not say "that depends on what you want to have". I want to have something that feels like my XP150 without its drawbacks.
It would be fine if it had a range similar or superior to my SS100. I do not want to have a specialist eg for sniping or flooding.
Size of PC and Pump
When you think about volumes, eg. the volume of the pressure chamber or the pump you need a hint from experienced people which proportion will work fine.
My old soakers are a SS100 and an XP150. They show both ends of what is possible.
Using the SS100 you have to pump like insane, because the pressure chamber has a volume of 400 ml, while the pump only has 20 ml (and the diameter is low). You never ever reach a point were pumping is not possible any more. The valve will have opened long before.
Pumping up the XP150 only needs you to pump a few times. But you soon reach a point, where you just cannot move the pump any more.
So what do you suggest?
My idea is a PC volume of about 300 to 500 ml, a pump pipe of either 16mm=>1/2" or 20 mm (outer) diameter, and with a lenght of maybe 15 cm.
Should I change some of these figures?
Size of the soaker
I tried to attach the water reservoir to the gun itself. But if you plan a reservoir of 1 liter, the gun will have a size of at least 35 x 35 cm (14").
Is it possible to handle soakers of that size? Or will you hate it?
I think I will use some standard PET water bottles on my back... should I?
Nozzle
What is a good size for the nozzle?
Max Pressure
What is the pressure I have to expect?
Most of my parts have a specification of 16 bar (230 psi). Some only reach 10 bar (145 psi).
A few that I could try to avoid reach "only" 5 bar (70 psi).
There are some transparent PVC pipes available that do not take much pressure. But it might look great.
So what pressure are we usually talking about, when pumping manually?
Construction
How much PVC glue will I need? Should I buy 125g or 480g?
Should I buy the "PVC cleaner" they offer?
Did anybody integrate a manometer in his soaker?