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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 1:06 am
by Lt.Winters
Is it possable to make a home made water shotgun? i know it'll be less then practical on the water battlefield, I was just wondering.
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 4:46 am
by SSCBen
Yes, in fact, most homemade water guns have a shotgun/riotblast type feature far more powerful than any other water gun's.
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 1:19 pm
by Lt.Winters
But the shotgun/riot blast on home mades is more of a big unlamiar stream instead of a big burst like i would see on my 4100 with the nozzle selecter off.
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 2:07 pm
by SSCBen
Big burst = poorly laminated stream usually
The riotblast on my first APH is way better than any "shotgun blast" I have tried on several water guns (such as CPS 2700, Monster, XP 150). It's far bigger and far wider. I usually use it to drench groups of people due to the actual amount of water involved.
Whoever is getting a stream from a 3/4" or larger nozzle should really be avoided also. That would take a very dangerous amount of pressure to create.
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 2:09 pm
by DX
Well of course a homemade riot blast is more unorganized, it has to push out a ton more water! A 4100 with no nozzles on it provides 20x output. I calculated my dual chamber APH riot at ~60x, which means the water comes out in a giant lump. Although when I shot my 4100 with the selector off, it produced a similar large and unorderly stream instead of the "burst" you're talking about.
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 5:29 pm
by Lt.Winters
Ok I know this is unlikey but, can I make something thats like a real shotgun? Could I do it with a small PC, large pump volume, and a riot blast nozzle? And will it be at least a bit practical on the field?
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 6:14 pm
by DX
My APR 1000 homemade is kinda like that. 4 pumps to fill the pc, has a large riot blast.
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 6:23 pm
by Lt.Winters
can i see a pic?
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 8:40 pm
by Magnor
Just a word of warning, don't try using it in a war unless everyone agrees, otherwise you could get sued...Those things can hit hard...
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 9:09 pm
by DX
can i see a pic?
I haven't got any at the moment, but I could take a few tomorrow and post them here.
Just a word of warning, don't try using it in a war unless everyone agrees, otherwise you could get sued...Those things can hit hard...
A homemade stream, even a homemade riot blast, hits with the same impact force as a normal stock stream. Only modded and integration modded guns shoot a stream with harder impact and it travels twice as fast. When I use those guns, I have to be careful with my aim, avoiding any head shots and limiting the amount of point blank shots I take. Homemades are actually safer than modded guns for this reason, and in our wars anything capable of shooting or launching water is allowed. Plus, the APR 1000 is a little larger than a CPS 2100, the smallest and most compact homemade I've ever seen.
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 9:25 pm
by Lt.Winters
Ok, I think I can start this project now. Money shouldn't be a problem since my Army cadet corp hands out surplus money. ok here's what I think should be needed: Small PC, large pump volume, and a tracked pump? Maybe a trigger system?
i need tips from guys like you.
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 9:35 pm
by DX
Sounds just like an APR 1000 kind of gun. Like I said earlier, the pump fills the pc in a mere 4 pumps. The 1000 also has a tracked pump, fast metal ball valve, and was designed specifically for battle use. If you must have a pic, I'll be right back, and it'll take about 5 minutes to import, compress, and upload the image.
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 9:36 pm
by Magnor
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 9:55 pm
by DX
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 10:01 pm
by Magnor
Much better than my idea I guess I just have to design a good CPS model that looks good and works well. Lets see...4 CPS Chambers...or 6? As soon as I can get down to Lowes and Walmart, I'll have the design and product finished in my head. A little paint, and it should look great. Bike Inner tubes for a mod, then even more for a homemade...wow this is getting costly...I guess its time to get an after school job (I wish I could find one...maybe fixing broken soakers or something for like five dollars, now that'd be awesome...hehehe.)
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 10:06 pm
by DX
The homemade pictured above cost me $21 to make. Less than buying a Flash Flood. Check SSCentral for CPS homemade designs to get you started. Don't use innertubes, order latex rubber tubing from [I think it's mcmaster.com]. Much better material than innertubes. And good luck with this, too.
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:55 am
by Lt.Winters
Whoa! That design is extremely close to what I had in mind. Too bad I can't post pics , I got 2 pages full of concepts. What does APR mean?
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:32 am
by isoaker
Too bad I can't post pics
If you want pics hosted, you can email them to me and I'll push them onto the server and PM you with the image location.
APR = Air Pressure Reservoir? I'm guessing.
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 10:24 am
by Forceuser
APR stands for air pressure revolution. Look here.
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 11:48 am
by Magnor
Duxburian wrote:The homemade pictured above cost me $21 to make. Less than buying a Flash Flood. Check SSCentral for CPS homemade designs to get you started. Don't use innertubes, order latex rubber tubing from [I think it's mcmaster.com]. Much better material than innertubes. And good luck with this, too.
I can't seem to find any CPS homemades on SScentral. And latex tubing seems a bit expensive...Maybe I'll find something even better on my next trip to Lowes.
Lol, maybe 50 or so 9 or 12 in balloons with a bit of inner tube supporting them...it could work, but then again, it could bust in my face...