2024 APH (Final)

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2024 APH (Final)

Post by Justice_Drencher » Fri Aug 23, 2024 8:23 am

Recently building a APH, total cost in the high hundreds or low two hundreds. I could not find 3” sch 40 but I did find cellular core. There are a few differences however. I used only parts from Home Depot so that is something to consider. The pressure chambers thread since they didn’t have solvent ones. The nozzle instead of threading on it threads in. Love to here your feedback on this here’s some pictures
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Re: 2024 APH

Post by SSCBen » Sun Aug 25, 2024 9:40 am

Glad to see people still building!

I should really redo the APH page, as the costs need to be updated and I would make some changes to improve safety.

I wouldn't recommend cellular core pipe for the pressure chambers. And the 3" to 2" reducers I used originally (same ones you're using here) usually aren't pressure rated, so I would suggest taking a different approach. You can find all pressure-rated components online easily (not easy in stores), say on McMaster. Instead of the reducing coupling and bushing you use now to go from 3" to 3/4", I'd probably end up using a big 3" to 3/4" reducing bushing like this on McMaster along with a 3" straight connector like this on McMaster. This will be heavier and more expensive, but much more durable and safer. You can verify these are pressure rated by checking the "Specifications Met" for "NSF/ANSI 61" or "NSF-pw" (also written on the pipe and fittings).

Fortunately, even if you've cemented everything together, with threaded pressure chambers, you can swap them out later. And the pressure you can get with a hand pump usually aren't an issue even with non-pressure rated components, or at least I haven't heard anything on that. (Non-hand pumped things are another story entirely.)

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Re: 2024 APH

Post by Justice_Drencher » Mon Aug 26, 2024 6:40 pm

Thanks for responding Ben. Currently I have cemented and used the water gun and I have good and bad news. Now don’t worry nothing exploded and no one got hurt. The good news is the riot blast is very good and is on par with a flash flood riot blast. The bad news is that the main nozzle is sub par for homemade standards. I have a couple theory’s why this is. Number 1 I have only pumped it up to half power due to the screw in chambers leaking at the joint. This could be fixed however I’ll just add Teflon to the joints. Number 2 is potentially what could be a debilitating issue that can’t be fixed for this homemade. This being the fact that the male screw in joint is smaller than the 3/4” tube that the chambers release water into. This I imagine is a major inefficiency in this APH that could be contributing to this. Besides that though the screw in pressure chambers I see can be a tactical advantage on the battlefield so I’ll have to try out swapping. Lastly the pump I made extra long because i believe that long pumps can do things that short pumps can but not vise versa. This may not be true but it’s what I see. I have 2 short videos of the gun shooting but I’m not sure how to post them here. But that’s pretty much it since this is a short essay at this point.

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Re: 2024 APH (Update)

Post by Justice_Drencher » Mon Sep 02, 2024 3:10 pm

Quick update I’ve fixed the issue turns out Teflon did the trick. Now I’m getting great range and power. The riot blast now is even more potent and I’ve made some nozzles that I would like to share.(note this is subject to change I will make more as time goes on.)
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From left to right<br />1. 1/16” nozzle- gets great range and shot time with the drawback of less output <br />2. 1/4” nozzle- great output and range with average shot time, an overall great nozzle<br />3. 5/16” nozzle- impressive output and slightly less shot time with the same range<br />4. 1/2” squall nozzle- honestly a very fun nozzle to use it has the power of riot blast with better range than one might expect, overall impressive nozzle for just being press fit together  (and it smokes compressed air which is kinda scary)<br />5. 3/4” riot blast- no need for an introduction lives up to the power of all riot blasts draining water in an instant, soaking everything in its path, great if up close
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1. 1/16” nozzle- gets great range and shot time with the drawback of less output
2. 1/4” nozzle- great output and range with average shot time, an overall great nozzle
3. 5/16” nozzle- impressive output and slightly less shot time with the same range
4. 1/2” squall nozzle- honestly a very fun nozzle to use it has the power of riot blast with better range than one might expect, overall impressive nozzle for just being press fit together (and it smokes compressed air which is kinda scary)
5. 3/4” riot blast- no need for an introduction lives up to the power of all riot blasts draining water in an instant, soaking everything in its path, great if up close
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Re: 2024 APH (Final)

Post by Justice_Drencher » Fri Mar 28, 2025 6:42 pm

just made 2 videos of me shooting the gun with the 5/16" nozzle and the 1/2" Squall nozzle, i am not quite sure how to post them here but if you guys know how id like to know. i measured the range of my APH and i can say the 5/16" nozzle shoots 45 feet, im not sure if this is on par for a APH so id like to hear you're feedback on this as for the Squall nozzle it over preformed shooting 36 feet basically being a concentrated riot blast. so id also like to add that for this pump i used a single top hat rubber grommet fixed into the pump shaft by a screw ill post a picture of it, as far as i know its a unique design as far as using a top hat grommet and it seals really well. anyways i hope for a good soaker season coming up as its looking very promising.

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Re: 2024 APH (Final)

Post by Justice_Drencher » Fri Mar 28, 2025 7:45 pm

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1--1 ... it?tab=t.0

i think i found a way to post them let me know if it works
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Re: 2024 APH (Final)

Post by SSCBen » Fri Mar 28, 2025 10:27 pm

Looks like you uploaded the videos to Google Drive and then linked to them in a Google Doc. You should be able to link to them directly here, no Google Docs needed. Anyhow, in Google Drive you need to set the permissions for the videos to public for others to view them.

(I'm afraid we don't have the space to host videos directly here, unfortunately.)

Your pump looks nice. I'll have to try your approach as I've received a lot of complaints about my own pump construction approach over the years!

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Re: 2024 APH (Final)

Post by Justice_Drencher » Sat Mar 29, 2025 8:12 am

Hi Ben i just updated the permissions in google drive like you said, i hope that fixes it. Just in case i will link them directly here. Thanks for the feedback as always

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https://drive.google.com/open?id=1hoDPJ ... drive_copy
https://drive.google.com/open?id=12_E7I ... drive_copy
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Re: 2024 APH (Final)

Post by SSCBen » Sat Mar 29, 2025 8:48 am

Yep, I can watch the videos. The shots look strong. In an actual water war I would usually use smaller nozzles. With a nozzle around 1/8" I would get good shot times and range, though the range would be quite a bit shorter than what you're seeing.

When I update the APH construction guide I should include more videos.

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Re: 2024 APH (Final)

Post by Justice_Drencher » Sat Mar 29, 2025 9:40 am

Ok great! I do have a smaller nozzle that used to be 1/16" but after finding out that in this configuration its a glorified spray, ive resized it to 1/8" using scissors. i was going to do some testing today but the rain does not make range tests ideal. so ill update you when weather conditions are better. i might just end up using hose barbs as nozzles as they seem to come in a variety of diameters and seem to have a relatively smooth bore but i could be wrong. anyways that's about it.

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