MD 6K - How do i open it?

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Post by Teh Moron » Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:43 pm

Alright, my MD 6k has been acting screwy lately. the trigger has seemed to snap off in the inside or something, and I read up on how to fix it, but someone tightened on the screws way too much, and cant seem to get them off. what should i do?
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Post by HBWW » Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:20 pm

Use more force... You could probably find a phillips head drill bit but that might not fit and could damage the screws.

Do any of the screws come out out easier? If you can't get the screws out, good luck prying the pump cap off.
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Post by Teh Moron » Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:36 am

I tried using more force...the screwdriver just slips out..
and anyway, the pump cap is loose. i pried it off with a flat headed screwdriver.
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Post by HBWW » Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:46 pm

Weird. Try using pliers on the screwdrivers, then keeping the top of the driver held down. What shape is your screwdriver in? (the handling, not the head)
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Post by Teh Moron » Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:13 pm

They would be circular, with ridges for grip. They're the only size of phillips head screwdrivers that i have that fit into the screw holes (they're about maybe 2 or so cm deep). Thanks for your help. Should i try drilling a hole into the screwdriver and putting a metal bar through it to use as a lever?



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Post by HBWW » Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:24 pm

Sound's like this is only for one particular screw. Is the head of the screw all damaged? If it is, you'll need to use a more destructive method to remove it. I don't know about the method you mentioned, but something along those lines should work.

Apparently, one of the screws on my Flash Flood seems to be doing the same thing. Drilling a hole in the screw isn't really working (it takes too long for the drill to get through), so I'm looking to other methods, such as using brute force to break the frame apart, or seeing if I can cut the connection.

Be careful when using brute force, sometimes it's the only option, but sometimes it can also damage more of the gun than really necessary.
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Post by Teh Moron » Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:32 pm

Is the head of the screw stripped, or does it still have some shape to it? maybe you could put just a tiny bit of epoxy on the screw head and leave a cheap disposable screwdriver in the screw hole with a clamp to hold the screwdriver in the correct position. Wait until the epoxy is dry and turn the screwdriver slowly careful not to break the epoxy.

However, I haven't got that much experience with epoxy and dont really remember how hard it is..

Of course, some of the epoxy might seep onto the sides of the screw hole and make opening alot harder.
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Post by Teh Moron » Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:00 pm

Thanks for your help. In the end I used the screwdriver with a weird wrench (i dont know what it's called, looks like a pair of bent scissors) and took off the evil screw. Looks like the spring connecting the trigger valve to the trigger snapped, so I just put a couple of rubber bands (as seen on Ben's very helpful site) between them, using the same anchor points as the spring, and my problem was fixed.

Now to do that nozzle drill, CVF and XPS mod I always wanted to do. :goofy:

(sorry for double post)




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Post by HBWW » Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:28 pm

Hm, interesting idea, but not sure how well it'd work. It's hard to get that area smoothed out for the epoxy to fill, and even then, if it's that tight I doubt it'd open up, even with different glues. But I shouldn't need to worry about the glue damaging the screwdriver either way, seems like it'd be pretty easily removed. (which is partly why I doubt the idea would work in the first place) Anyways, I managed to get to the part I needed to without busting the screw. It's just the periodic need of replacing rubber bands for the trigger.

And BTW, the "CVF" is actually called a PRV disable. "Freezing" a check valve won't do much good as far as I'm concerned. ;) Wonder why those outdated articles haven't been updated/edited/whatever at all in the past few years.




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Post by Teh Moron » Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:39 pm

Hmm, in the time I was last here, it was CVF..alot can change in a year I guess...
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