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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 1:45 pm
by needsomehelp
every year my freind has a big barbecue/soaker/firework party. I need to know a good soaker to get (im not much of an ebay fan) and any other helpful ideas. There are various soakers ranging from cps2000 to little squirt guns. Oh and buckets too. We all get our water from his pool. So anyone have any ideas on what to use?
Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 1:49 pm
by Silence
Try the Tiger Shark, Orca, or pretty much anything from Buzz Bee/Water Warriors.
Riverguns like the Stream Machine and the Waterzooka (or a homemade version) are also good, especially since you can fill them from the pool.
Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 4:33 pm
by cobralex297
sounds fun;
just replying to the idea-- make sure that they don't fill the 2000 in the pool... chlorine can just completely rip up the inside of a good gun.. 
Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 5:26 pm
by hydroblitz
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:43 am
by needsomehelp
cobralex297 wrote:sounds fun;
just replying to the idea-- make sure that they don't fill the 2000 in the pool... chlorine can just completely rip up the inside of a good gun..
uhhhhhm 2000 shouldnt go into the pool? i know that chlorine wrecked the insides of my cps1200 god bless its soul but i thought that the 2000s could tolerate it....hmmm so that explains why he needed to repair the pump track. Oh well it still fires though man that thing is like a fuel rod gun from halo
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 3:29 pm
by SSCBen
Any CPS water guns shouldn't go into pools. The chlorine does negatively affect the rubber that powers the CPS system. You'll end up weakening the rubber or worse, breaking the bladder. In either case, a simple PC replacement repair would be necessary, but it would be best to not have to do that.
If the pump track needed repair, that likely has nothing to do with the pool. As it turns out, as some parts age they simply need repair. Tracked pumps are one of them. Most problems are more likely due to wear than anything else.
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:13 pm
by Adrian
As has been said, no CPS in the pool. Other than that, use whatever's biggest.
Adrian
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:14 pm
by kiteboarderni
those cannons, are they a one shot thing??
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:25 pm
by ZTrooper
If it's chlorine in the pool that's eating the CPS chambers.. um.. there's chlorine in tap water... so....why won't that eat up a CPS gun? I've got a 3000, and given their rarity and expense these days, I obviously want to preserve it for as long as possible....
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:47 pm
by Silence
There's much more chlorine in poolwater - that's how they keep it clean. That's why pools smell much more strongly than water (whose smell is unnoticeable). That's also why you shouldn't drink poolwater. Somebody like Duxburian might know the concentrations of chlorine in tapwater and poolwater.
EDIT: Fixed me spieleeng.
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:50 pm
by DX
I can't give you an exact concentration, because it changes based on local area. I can, however, say that tap water is anything but pure and clean - that's a significant misconception. Tap water is a gigantic mixing pot of numerous chemicals, some [like flouride] inserted by municipalities, others [like iron] seep in naturally, and others [like lead] don't filter out well. In some areas, there is probably more lead in tap water than chlorine, even after attempts to filter it, as other unwanted chemicals filter more easily. The same water you use to fill guns also comes out of your showerhead; some interesting research shows that regular showering over time causes brain damage due to that lead. 
Random, but I think it's kinda funny. :laugh:
Obviously, there are great quantities of chlorine in pool water, hence its smell and taste. The only water that is really pure is distilled, and it tastes sickening because there are no chemicals in it.
So basically I wouldn't worry about tap water in guns, it beats most natural sources unless you live in a very clean and rural area. I'd know, too, for some of the streams I fill from contain bad stuff, but not nearly as bad as the areas I don't use, the ones with cyanide and other funny industrial chemicals.
Best water for a gun is either filtered from a refrigerator or bottled water. Bottled water is by law required to have and not have certain chemicals and to meet certain standards. Refrigerator filters are often so powerful than they get out microscopic organisms that nothing else would. Then again, that's if you are really being picky - I usually dump whatever water is around into my gun, puddle water if need be, and the bladders have lasted fine over the years.
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:30 pm
by ZTrooper
Thanks for the info. As for pool fun... I really had fun with my SS 300.. just drop the hose into the pool and away you go. The SS 300 was also a lot of fun on river rafting trips.. just drop the hose over the side.. no need for a backpack in either case. (yeah, I know.. no real availability of a 300 any more.)
If I had to pick something for a pool party... Just about any soaker would do.. but since you're going to be wet anyway, Anything with a solid stream, or riot blast would be my choice.. here's something too.. you could partially submerge a Flash Flood or Arctic blast, and still have the firing chamber and pump handle above water (alibeit at a bit of an angle... insta fill while still firing and/or pumping!)
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:51 pm
by Silence
Thanks for the info. (I'll probably never take EnviroSci, though.)
ZTrooper, the problem with partially submerged water guns is that the water that gets pumped is still pool water. So in the case of CPS water guns, all the chlorine still contacts the rubber.
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:20 pm
by ZTrooper
Silence wrote:Thanks for the info. (I'll probably never take EnviroSci, though.)
ZTrooper, the problem with partially submerged water guns is that the water that gets pumped is still pool water. So in the case of CPS water guns, all the chlorine still contacts the rubber.
I'm aware of that.. he seems intent on using a CPS gun in a pool environment, and as long as he's aware of what he's doing.. no harm in pointing out some tactics that might help. 
Now.. on the flip side.. to Air Pressure guns have the same vulnerability to chlorine?
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:59 pm
by SSCBen
Air pressure water guns shouldn't have any problems with chlorine unless the plastic has a problem with chlorine. I could see the rubber O-rings potentially having a problem with chlorine. However, most of them are synthetic at this point and should be able to withstand chemicals such as chlorine. I am sure there are O-rings in the pipe systems used in pools.