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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 4:49 am
by Falcon
Veteran wrote:Definetly bring a blaster shield. They turn the tide in every water war I've used them in. It eliminates range as a variable.
Uh, I wouldn't say that it completely eliminates range as a variable. Sure, shields can be effective at blocking your enemy's attacks, but if your enemy is firing a volley of water balloons or 5x or greater blasts from a hill, cliff or some other place up high with a long range blaster, you can't cover your whole body at once, unless you have some kind of waterproof turtle shell. :laugh:
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 12:46 pm
by Veteran
Yes, you actually CAN block a "volly of water balloons from uphill) With a blaster shield. Read the article and you'll understand.
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 3:49 pm
by Soakologist
Well, sure you can, but they're not very effective if the enemy is attacking from two or more sides. Then they're only useful for your front. This may be the only situation that the XP-Backfire is the best gun to use. :laugh:
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 6:37 pm
by Veteran
Thats true, but range is basically eliminated from a normal perspective.
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 8:42 pm
by Field Marshal Yang
Falcon wrote:you can't cover your whole body at once, unless you have some kind of waterproof turtle shell. :laugh:
That got me thinking for moment before I thought of a great idea. How about creating those shields for your entire team and form a roman tortoise formation that uses the shields to cover the front, top, and sides of your team? Only the people holding the front and side shields should have blaster holes and with that, an enemy attack from any direction can be met with streams of water from your team. Of course, the team would have to have enough people to form a complete "tortoise".
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 11:46 pm
by Veteran
What would stop you from blocking all of their blasts from uphill? Tell me man, it covers the ENTIRE front of your body.
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 11:52 pm
by Soakologist
What if they're attacking FROM BOTH SIDES?! :-O
Then again, in that case, you're screwed with or without a shield. :laugh:
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 12:09 am
by Veteran
He said from uphill, not from both sides. I was adressing a different scenarios.
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 2:10 pm
by Space_Cowboy
Adrian wrote:Cargo pants give me more options in terms of carrying things, and they protect my legs from mosquitos (which is a big thing where I live).
If you live near Wisconsin's peninsula, I can see why. 
Anyway, I always wear camouflage cargo pants, a camo BDU jacket, and a camo boonie hat. I just spray all this stuff with mosquito repellent, and I'm all set. As for other gear, I have a small nylon bag for my backup blaster, my leatherman, some waterballoons, and for day missions, I bring sunglasses.
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:52 pm
by SilverFist
I personally don't like the ideas of having shields in a water fight. Water fights are suppose to be about running around and soaking your friend with water, and I believe having shields will take away some of that fun. I mean, if you are so interested in blocking water blasts, why not wear a rain coat instead?
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 10:04 pm
by Exodus
Well, wearing a raincoat eliminates your body getting wet, whereas a shield you have to manuever it around. So wearing a a raincoat disposes of the fun of trying to dodge, because your body can't get wet anyway. And shields can block water balloons. Raincoats can block you from the water iside the water balloons, but not from the impact which may hurt if thrown hard enough.
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 10:20 pm
by Triforce Elite
I like to use shields because once it saved me from getting soaked.The only bit of me that got wet was my hair from a single water bomb. 
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 10:29 pm
by Space_Cowboy
Exodus wrote:Well, wearing a raincoat eliminates your body getting wet, whereas a shield you have to manuever it around. So wearing a a raincoat disposes of the fun of trying to dodge, because your body can't get wet anyway. And shields can block water balloons. Raincoats can block you from the water iside the water balloons, but not from the impact which may hurt if thrown hard enough.
My friend tried using a rainsuit, so we aimed for the collar area of his coat, and it leaked down inside. Rain coats keep water in just as well as they keep water out. 
They also chafe really bad if it's hot out.
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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 5:13 am
by Peeko
(Back on topic) I would bring 2 1 litre bottles (in case I drop one) , a towel ,a drinking bottle and a smallish blaster shield. 
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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 10:29 pm
by BlueMage
Field Marshal Yang wrote:Many of the old-timers here like to wear camo or other military-style outdoor gear. I'd like to go to an army surplus store and get a green army jacket.
old-timers? jeez, i'm only 12 and i wear camo. 'course, i just found most of it in the garage... (my jacket is mine)
any ways,
i'd bring:
camo army jacket and pants
pocketknife
string
tape
small towel
extra water
water balloons(filed & unfilled)
shades
flashlight
2-way radio
sidearms (either Twin XP220s or Twin storm 500s)
first aid kit
bug spray
hat
bottle rockets for signals
edit:
boonie hat
bug net
lighter
landmines
water baloons
extra water
GPS
fan
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 8:39 pm
by Barca
Hmm... This could turn out to be a long list. To start I have one of those 2-in-1 cammleback water storage packs/camping daypack so I dont carry any more water then that (it holds 6 liters). In the pack part of the backpack I generally carry a camoflouge tarp, an extra tan tee-shirt (the kind you see SEAL's using during training) a waterproof container of some sort (for money, sunglasses, cell phone, spare batteries... you get the idea) and my backup gun to my backup. On the front hooked up to my ALICE pack depending on the seriousness of the fight I have those little snapper things you always see on Fourth of July, a sports bottle with Gatorade or equivilant, face paint kit in case of touchups, and sometimes smoke canisters, again depending on seriousness. On my belt I have these little two-way radio's with voice activated headsets for my team, a prepaid cellphone, and my sidearm, generally a XP-70, and a flashlight in my pocket. Over my facepaint, if im wearing any I use my Oakleys if its sunny and im not in the woods (which almost all the battle take place in) and for my uniform my whole team of six has the same BDU that I picked up, either black or woodland camo pattern with a dark green and lighter brown pattern reversable. For boots I use either Oakley military boots or just plain sneakers. Anyhow I tend to take my waterfights pretty serious as do my mates that participate with me, our team of six or so versus up to about 14 or so...
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 11:40 pm
by Soakologist
Shoes, IMHO, are one of the most important parts of the outfit. I'm going to make some recommendations for each position on SKG when it opens...
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 11:15 am
by Barca
Agreed, although it does depend on some key factors, I.E. length, terrain, and how serious said engagement is. For some no shoes at all might be appropriate and for other sandals might work. In most of the ones I participate in the battleground is in heavily wooded forest type terrain so I prefer combat boots, they are extremely comfortable for long distances, they are very durable, and they have good traction and little noise when running through brush.
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 12:49 pm
by BlueMage
where do you get voice activated headsets? i need one of those.
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 1:51 pm
by Adrian
Sandals are bad for all water warfare, IMO, no matter what the terrain. They let stuff under your feet (sand, leaves, twigs), and they make more noise than shoes. I prefer to fight barefoot (or wearing shoes) in suburban settings, and wear shoes for forest fighting.
Adrian