If we don't have the space for a true primary (meanwhile Nerf's Mega Centurion continues a long tradition of making a mockery of the so-called shelf space limit), then I'm downgrading what I want to see. I'd be content with a newer XP 150. BBT need not change much of anything about its current AP designs except the pump. Give me a mid-sized AP gun with a reservoir the size of a Colossus 1 and a 70 mL pump and it's lights out in that class. I know that iSoaker has told us BBT thinks large pumps are too difficult for kids to pump, but in all honesty, show me a 10 year old kid who can't pump an XP 150 8 times. Or, show me how that's more difficult than pumping a CPS 2000 over 20 times. Those 8 pumps may be a bit stiffer at the end, but it's still 8 vs 20. Do 8 slow push ups vs 20 a bit faster and see what's more difficult. Also, a 150 pump is on the higher end of the scale. Just 50 mL is enough. A large pump needs to be accompanied by a fast-repeating trigger. Doesn't need to have the XP 150's ridiculous rapid firing trigger, but should be completely free of lag.
They could call it the WW Swordfish or WW Marlin, or any water creature that's very fast. Colossus 1 reservoir capacity. Single large PC or smaller dual PCs. 50-80mL clear/translucent pump. Quick, durable trigger. Less than 10 pumps to full. I don't even care what the range or output is, although at least 38ft and a nozzle setting of at least 3x is desirable. It should not be outperformed by a Max-D 4000. 3 nozzle choices would be fine, but it could make do with 1 nozzle if it's the 3x. I've found that I rarely switch between more than 2 nozzles. Large or reasonably large internal tubing would help. I was shocked to discover that the Vindicator has the same size internal tubing and valve as a Hornet. That's like putting a v4 engine in a sports car.
If we get to play with a design space that's Gorgon-sized, I still want to see a Gorgon 2 with an all-new design. The Gorgon has so much wasted space from being an Orca adaption. It could easily have bigger PCs, a bigger pump, or even more capacity without being made an inch larger. It does not exactly need more capacity, so the PCs and pump could be improved instead. There is huge potential there for a top level primary that is small in size, but packs a punch. The Gorgon is so close, but not quite there. A larger pump would have made the Gorgon competitive with top level CPS. Seeing how the XP 150 wrecks things larger than itself, and can surprisingly inflict quite a bit of damage to things Gorgon-sized, I have no doubt at all that a big pumped Gorgon 2 would shake up the "anything goes" scene, and probably for just $20.
So, we have the WW Gorgon 2. Gorgon 1 reservoir capacity. Dual PCs at least 1/3 larger than the original. 50-80 mL clear/translucent pump. Quick, durable trigger. Less than 20 pumps to full. I don't even care what the range or output is, although at least 42ft and a nozzle setting of at least 10x is desirable. It should not be outperformed by a CPS 1000. 10x is pretty high, but we already know that a Gorgon 1 is capable of sporting a drilled 10x nozzle at 37ft, with horrible stream lamination, and off a not optimal section of the nozzle selector plate. So, BBT might as well just put a 10x on it and advertise its massive soakage (not sure how large that would be in N* rating style, at least N15 prolly). A manufacturer-intended 10x would have the good lamination to hit at least 40ft, even more if BBT really focuses on lamination the way the CPS 2000 nozzle was perfected. 3 nozzle settings on the plate like the N# equivalents of 2.5x, 5x, and 10x or 4 settings of 2.5x, 5x, 7.5x, and 10x) would secure the Gorgon 2's place as an ass-kicking, top level primary.
Imagine that, a soaker that brings the incredible pumping and shooting capabilities of the XP 150, the ability to tangle on a level playing field with CPS 2500s and 1500s, the high field life that BBT guns are known for, the long term durability of plain air pressure PCs, yet in such a small package that it can be marketed on modern shelves like the original Gorgon, and sell 10,000 units, all for a price point around $20-25! **** me, I'd have to ditch my CPS 2000s for that, or at least all except #5. Would I actually do that? YES. Why? Personal fighting style...be very afraid if something like this is ever made. The 2000 is an acquired taste. This gun would sync with me naturally and instantly. Even if it only has 40ft of range and my 2000 #5 has 53ft, it would be superior to that 2000, given its other attributes. Range is no longer everything.
So, I guess this is my new "challenge" to Buzz Bee Toys. I've touted the Gorgon 2 before as a dream gun, but right now I think it's really possible to build this. Take a really good look at a Gorgon and you'd see what I mean. There can be less casing, more PC, and more pump, without changing the dimensions whatsoever. It would still conform to BBT's shelf space limitation. At a price point of $20, I would buy 10 of them, using profits from sold 2000s. So, the sale goal is 9,990 units, if that helps at all. Imagine this beast next to a Nerf SS model at similar price points. The Gorgon 2's stream art would not even need to lie, the stream image can appear on the box as-is and would still look several times larger than the Nerf SS stream, cause it IS that much larger. It would murder the competition on the shelf for older, nostalgia-starved kidults and younger kids not too stupid to know that 40ft at 10x is better than 25ft at 0.25x.
Of course, this still depends on BBT's appetite as a company to become #1. As an ex-sprinter, I can't understand the Colossus 2 and the direction that represents. You go out to win, not to settle for less. The world is supposed to become better with each new attempt, not backpedal. I know they have guts over there at BBT from the risks they've taken in the past. But, where is the drive? They don't even have an official presence on social media. Hasbro is running away with this game. BBT's fan base is practically entirely fan-made and mostly through word-of-mouth. There is opportunity being wasted. Nerf's FB has tons of engaged users and even more that we don't see post. Those users are free money when something new is coming. BBT is like the solid, but shy kid that could own the playground during a power vacuum, but is too unsure of himself to step in. The dominant bully is losing his head and grip, you can own the playground right now if you would only just take it.
It makes me so frustrated to see all this potential go to waste. This is such a better chance than the reaching of the past, the 50ft range crap and unreasonable sized form factor requests. This thing is actually doable...Only takes one person who wants to change the world, one kid at a time.
marauder wrote:You have to explain things in terms that kids will understand, like videogames^ That's how I got Sam to stop using piston pumpers